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  1. Mysteri

    Mysteri New Member

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    Hi, I tried to lower my anchor, and there was no power to it. I even tried to lower it manually and it would not drop. There seems to be power at the switch behind the starboard engine but not at the anchor box. Has anyone had issues with this before? The fuse is good.
  2. Pascal

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    It would help if you d bother telling us what brand windlass you have as well as boat info.

    typically you will have heavy cables running from the batteries to a control box often located in the anchor locker or possibly under a bed in a forward stateroom. Or in the forward bilge.

    check for voltage at the terminals these two heavy cables are connected to

    in that box there will also be a pair or relay / solenoids. When a foot switch or helm switch is activated, power is sent to the up or down solenoid which in turn sends power to the motor

    Post a picture of the solenoids

    how did you try to lower the anchor manually? Again without knowing what kind of windlass you have, it s hard to tell but did you release the clutch on windlass?
  3. Mysteri

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    Sorry it is a maxwell and the boat is a carver voyager 530. Your post is very helpful and what I was looking for to start. the fuse is good, power at the main switch. I will check what you advised. As for the manual drop I opened the clutch and tried to pull the chain but would not budge. Thank you for the reply







  4. Pascal

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    If you release the clutch with the correct wrench it should drop although i ve seen cases where it doesn’t.
    Also forgot to mention that in addition to a main breaker near the battery powering the windlass there is often another breaker or switch to turn off the foot or helm switch. It all depends on how the windlass was installed.
  5. Mysteri

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    Thanks Pascal. I loosened the clutch and does not move. I will check the schematic for another breaker
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    When was the last time the windlass worked?
    I have found on a few boats another switch on the helm dash to enable the windlass operation.

    Sometimes the clutch will remain stuck after loosing the nut. Tie a line to the anchor. leave about 1 foot of slack and tie the loose end of that line to a cleat.
    With the nut loose, kick that chain a few times to un-stick the clutch. The anchor will ad some weight but not go far.
    DOT NOT place your fingers anywhere near that chain or gypsy.
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    Best to figure out why your windlass isn’t working first before you lower the anchor much or make sure you have your emergency windlass handle available to retrieve it. I have a Maxwell, they are not very easy to retrieve if the windlass isn’t working.
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    You've got two completely different problems here, but they might be interconnected.
    One is that the motor doesn't run, and the other is that the clutch remains stuck.
    But having both at the same time suggests that the motor might also be stuck, due to oxidation or whatever.
    In turn, this might have blown a fuse or tripped another breaker on the power cable somewhere.
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    That was covered by CR suggestion to secure the anchor with a slack line, I reckon.
  10. Capt Ralph

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    Yep.
    And get some weight off of the reduction gear also.
  11. Mysteri

    Mysteri New Member

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    Last year, it worked well.
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    That’s why I asked. It seemed they might be connected. I checked fuses, they are fine. What do I do if motor is stuck?
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    I have not tried to retrieve the anchor on this boat manually yet. Was hoping to get the windless operating first. Trying to test the wiring at different points. Have 2 helms with on off switches and up & down button.
  14. Pascal

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    On a boat that size the anchor can usually be pulled by hand. Not fun but doable

    First as mentioned ealier you need to make sure power gets to the solenoids near the windlass. Check for voltage at the larger wires. If you don’t get power there, find out why. There could be a breaker that you re not aware off. Or maybe carver (or someone) powered the windlass from the batteries and someone replaced the batteries and missed that wire. It’s happened before

    of you have voltage at the solenoids, then check for voltage at each of the helm switches. Typically you will have power coming to the switches. Check voltage at the common wire, obviously with red lead of your meter placing the black lead on a known negative terminal block. As explained before there is usually a breaker protecting circuit independently from the main feed to the windlass.

    you said you checked fuses. Which one? I find it difficult to believe that fuses are used and not breakers.

    finally motors don’t get stuck. Very rarely. What is more likely to happen is that something breaks in the gear box between the motor and the capstan

    As to the clutch, a seized clutch would not prevent the motor from turning and the windlass from working. Just like a bad motor or damaged gear box should not prevent the clutch from releasing. Two completely different issues
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    Yes. two different issues,,, Maybe.
    Was thinking to unload the reduction gears, from the gypsy, it may help it spin.
    If the gypsy and chain was jammed at the stripper or deck pipe, this could help.

    Also, letting the chain out a foot, then wrench it in with the clutched tight, may help loosen up the armature.

    Heck, try anything to check and cover all symptoms or possibilitys. Then pull out the BFH...
  16. Mysteri

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    Thanks to all. I did what you said and followed the power from the solenoids. Cleaned contacts and unplugged and Re plug all wires. Cleaned the main power switch. It started working. I will lower it it inspect the chain, then work on the manual clutch.
    Thanks again.