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70' Hatteras Aground...

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  1. BMS

    BMS Senior Member

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    Refloat/Salvage in South Carolina very easy to miss the channel with the tides around here.

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  2. BMS

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    I do the North-South Delivery at least once a year and have done the ICW many times. A Captain that should be experienced enough to run a 75' Hatteras shouldn't make a mistake like that and be hard aground. Also with today's chartplotting technology, it shouldn't happen.
  4. BMS

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    I agree to some extent but he was not in the ICW and with the 7-9 foot tides in this area things change rapidly. I know for a fact that in a spot near Hells Gate GA just off the ICW in the Forrest River the plotter says 40' when at high tide there is 6' and at low tide -2. Not saying he was in the right but there was 20-30' of water all around him except right where he was at. I always tell people there is a lot of water in GA and SC it just gets real thin in some spots. Don't know how exactly he got there but it was a long cold night getting him off;)
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    Also that bar isn't visible at high tide, that night was a full moon with a north east wind and he bumped just after high tide which was a 9' tide...
  6. wscott52

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    Bummer. I grew up around there and can confirm it's not that hard to do. Of course when I grew up a chart was a little plastic thing you used on a paper chart.

    Can you be more specifc about where he was? Maybe Google Earth coordinates? I'm sure I've been there.
  7. NYCAP123

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    GPS is very accurate these days. The charts used are not always so. Every plotter I've used has shown my track across dry land at one place or another while I was in good water. That's why I don't run at night unless I'm familiar with the area or it's well marked area. I've run Georgia several times and never had a problem. Then, last year I came through at low tide. Who pulled the plug?:eek: Made it through but don't lose concentration for a moment, even while the flies are sucking the last bit of blood from your body. These things happen, embarrassing, but they happen. Hopefully he'll be able to float off with little damage.
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    I d like to know where that is exactly. I ve been thur GA many times even with a 6 1/4 draft and it s not that bad if you take it slow and do your home work on the trouble spots.

    Persoanlly I don't think day or night makes a difference since icw waters ate so murky, it s not like you read the water so day or night is the same. I ve run many sections of the icw at night and with dual independent plotters radar and sounder and a good spotlight it s not difficult as it is very well marked.

    Running at high tide is great but you have to be aware that if you get in trouble you will not get off easily

    the key there is to feel your way through by relying heavily on the sounder. It doesn't take long to learn.
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    I know what you mean, but that advice could get people into trouble unless they float that sounder ahead somewhere. Also muddy water only affects clarity not texture which is more telling of bottom changes. It should also be noted at what speed you travel. It's a bit different at 20+ kts.
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    The Hull by The stabilizer....

    Its the hull cracked or is that just water? Look at it closely. Doesn't look right.
  11. Pascal

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    it's water... most hatts (at least the older ones) have sea chests on the hulls sides to collect most overboard discharges (grey, bilges, AC, deck drains, etc...)
  12. dsharp

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    Hatteras aground

    What is the likely condition of the port side stabilizer? The surface looks more like sand than mud.
  13. BMS

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    Sorry it took so long to get back but I was swamped today. To answer some questions. This happened a few months back but I didn't want to post to save the captain and owner a bit of embarrasment and let a little time pass. This happened in SC at the Calibouge sound entrance between reds 4 & 6 (not the ICW) a lot of boats go aground here. The boat did not sustain very much damage at all a banged up prop and rudder were all. The stern was lifted with air bags to float it over the sand bar as the tide came back it and she then got underway useing her own power and continued her voyage south. I also found after talking with an engineer from hatteras that thisy particular model can list 40 deg before having to be very concerned. Let me know if you have anymore questions or questions concerning anywhere in SC or GA in this region it is very easy to find the bottom even with paper charts, plotters, and depth sounders. If I don't know where a particular sand bar lays I will more than likely find it tomorrow night. :eek:
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    Thanks. That's where I thought it was but I wasn't sure with the little bit visible past the stern. Well, that and it's been over 30 years since my parents and I lived on a boat in Harbor Town for six months. We had a 13' Boston Whaler and an 18' Wellcraft so I spent a good bit of time on the water around there.
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    Do you remember the triple fatality off long Island with the 40' Hustler running aground last October?
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    That was pure operator stupidity. That area actually shows up well on most plotters I've used. Three local areas that come to mind are the entrance to 3 Mile Harbor, the Quogue canal and Consience Point. Luckily, three spots where you rarely have to count on charts.
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    The vessel in the pic I submitted barely touched bottom when they hit. That pic shows about five hours south of high tide. I know I have hit bottom on more than one occasion although not quite like that. I say if a captain says he has never been aground then he needs to get underway more:D