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Crew Quarters; claustrophobia?

Discussion in 'Yacht Crews' started by NYCAP123, Jul 7, 2008.

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  1. NYCAP123

    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    My poor, poor deprived revdcs. They're jelly beans flavored like coffee, bubblegum, banana, blueberry, etc., etc. A little bit of rediculous wonderfulness that brings your tastebuds back to childhood for a moment. I ate them in the hopes that I'd shrink to a size that would fit those quarters. BTW Pascal the GFCI here was also at the sink where the shower curtain wrapped around you to form the shower. Get the feeling that concern for our safety ranks right with concern for our comfort.:rolleyes:
  2. goplay

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    NYCAP123, that looks like a Fairline Targa 62!

    The 62 I used to have wasn't much better, but at least one didn't have to step down on the toilet.

    The Italian boats seem to have the smallest crew quarters for a given sized boat. The Taiwan production boats I have seen, surprisingly, seem to have the largest.
  3. Codger

    Codger YF Wisdom Dept.

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    Crew quarter photos in future Yacht reviews

    How about it?
    Come up with a ratio of square metres per crew member quarters to square metres per guest quarters. Just as an indicator.. ;)
  4. revdcs

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    Thanks for enlightening me :)

    A Jelly Belly here in the UK, is something that hangs over the top of ones trousers (or pants in the US) which is probably the result of eating too many Jelly Bellies :D
  5. NYCAP123

    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    Goplay,
    Bingo. A 3 stateroom plus laundry or 2 plus crew and laundry. Sorry Fairline that is no 3 plus crew.

    Codger,
    Simple to figure. (2) methods:
    1) Let me stand up and turn around or lay down straight and roll over without hitting a wall or ceiling. Let me also look into the shaving mirror while standing up.

    2) Let the owner of a boat spend (3) days living out of a room (including stowing his clothes) before he asks someone else to live there.
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    Hi,

    NYCAP123- for that to work you would have to know some special Owners who stow their own clothes.:eek:
  7. NYCAP123

    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    There is always method #1. :D
    Actually, I've been pretty lucky over the years. In 20 years I've only run into (3) owners who'd expect someone to actually sleep in quarters like these. Obviously, I didn't take the jobs. I even had one owner of a dinner yacht who insisted that I take the stateroom with the TV for a long transport. (Of course there was no reception after we pulled out of Pt. Everglades god bless her, but her heart was in the right place).:)
    Now, I'm not real picky. I've slept on many a wheelhouse bench and used the old 5 gal. w/c on an LCM and a few others :( . I just don't want to feel trapped or disrespected.
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    If I'm not willing to sleep in it myself, then I don't know that I have the heart to ask a crew member to sleep in it either.

    Small is one thing. Sardine can is another.
    Although I am a big fan of the Jelly Belly's, I don't think they would have gotten me in there for more than a nickel tour.
  9. CaptPKilbride

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    We call those things that hang over the top of your pants " muffin-tops".

    Which are produced by eating too many jelly bellies!
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    I thought muffin tops were lateral appendages. I think some of these "cabins" were designed while drinking Alice in wonderland drinks. They may make sense on a plan but scale is not considered too seriously. I'd rather sleep in a hammock.
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    On the M/Y Leander my crew cabin was better than my current apartment and had a better sound system!

    On a 110' Bennetti my bunk had a steel bracing bar running up through the center of it. As a lanky streak of 18 year old this grew to be a problem (No, no, the legs)

    The worst was S/Y Harbinger, built in 1909. Crew bunks were way forward right under the forehatch so every time you hit a greenie over the foredeck the hatch lifted just enough to dump 10 quarts of icecold straight to your shorts.

    Wakey-wakey. :eek:

    Dave
  12. Crew quarters have been improving over the last ten years, at least on yachts big enough to need crew. I have run into situations where a captain came to look at an older yacht for an owner to buy, and after seeing the crew quarters, said they would pass. There are, contrary to popular opinion, many owners who are concerned about the crews comfort. Finding a really good crew is just as hard as finding the right yacht. The longer an owner has owned yachts, the more likely he has learned this valuable lesson.

    American yachts in general have had better crew quarters over the years, European yachts less so, and some built in South America were horrendous, but most have improved lately. The exceptions are the boats that really are not big enough for crew to begin with, usually under 60 feet.
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    You are so spot on, but I think I'd raise that last number to 70 feet. If a boat's owner is capable and hires his friend's son for the weekend to help with lines these sort of quarters will do as it's an adventure for the kid. If however he has to hire professional help (especially a captain) then he has to make proper accomodations.
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    I find this mind boggling. The hatch was covered as well, hell. If I had such a boat that was really too small for a crew but needed a Captain due to my age or whatever, then I'd use the minor guest cabin for his accommodation. That hole reminds me of those Japanese sleep chambers they have at some airports. Maybe ok for a 18yo deckhand used to one person tenting who sees life as a bit of adventure.
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    My last boat was a 130' westport and the crew quarters were horrible for that size boat" that's why I'm not there now, Captain's cabin was smack in the middle of crew lounge and was desiged for a couple. the cabins forward were tinny , including the heads and showers. the only decent cabin was the engineers aft of the engine room.

    Jc
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    The question an owner really should ask himself is "Would I want a person who would be willing to live like this, who has that little respect for himself to be responsible for my and my family's safety and the care of my multi-million dollar asset." It's like giving a few million dollars to the guy who drives the ice cream truck and asking him to invest it for you.
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    You know, way back in 2003 when my yacht "research" started, I visited a well known yacht builder on the Gulf Coast. I got to walk aboard a new 150' footer that was getting ready for the FLBS. I walked into the crew quarters and had an attack of serious claustrophobia (though those crew quarters were palatial compared to your images). I think I had an epiphany that day on the 150'....I will/would NEVER force or ask my future crew to sleep in ANY quarters I could/would not sleep in!! I remember a nasty discussion with a well know interior designer later that same day who told me "that I was wasting my time worrying about the crew quarters" and "that most owners do not care either"....needless to say, that designer was sick and so is any owner who expects their crew to sleep in such "quarters"...

    Cheers,
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    Where do I sign on for your crew?:) I recently left the employ of a fellow with your mindset (He got out of boating for his wife). I was always looking for ways that I could do more for him, save him money or otherwise make his life more enjoyable. Some would prefer crew that are just there to do a job. To those I say, make sure there is plenty of room and provisions in the lifeboat. Your welfare won't be his highest priority.
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    i have allways been of the mind set that you get out of the crew what you put in too them thus far the boats have allways got there clean and were all together food was well stocked and the boat was top notch for my family and guest's just a thought


    travler
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    From over 20 years on the crew side of that I can tell you that you're right.