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CAT 3208 TA's Smoking

Discussion in 'Engines' started by Merlinj79, Feb 6, 2026.

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  1. Merlinj79

    Merlinj79 New Member

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    375HP. About 1000 hours each. Boat is 1994 Ocean Alexander 46.

    A fair amount of greyish white smoke above 2100 rpm, just a little in the high teens. None at lower rpms.

    Both engines smoke the same, both start fine, run fine with WOT rpm around 2600-ish. I suspect the rpm is lower than 2800 due to the props, but not certain.

    Rpm was the same on the purchase survey, but I'm pretty sure they weren't smoking then (early 2024).

    I mostly drive around the bay at 1000-1200 RPM, occasional short, faster runs.

    The fuel is from last summer, 50% left with stabilizer added. I just don't burn that much cruising around the bay at sunset.

    Need to get the aftercoolers checked, but an oil sample two years ago was normal, no Sodium (my tech forgot to do the last oil sample).

    I took it out and ran it hard for about 30 minutes today, did seem to improve a little after that.

    I don't have any diesel experience other than owning this boat for a couple years. Any idea what might cause the smoke? Looking for a sanity check before I get a pro involved.
  2. Capt J

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    How many hours at 1000-1200 rpms do you run, before running it at cruising speed? Having the boat over propped by 200 rpms is a big problem, why wasn't that remedied when you bought it? How clean is your bottom and running gear? When was the last time the engines were serviced and what was done?
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  3. Merlinj79

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    Routine service (fluids & filters) only in the two years I've owned it, neither the surveyor nor management company seemed concerned. I haven't discussed the smoke yet, trying to get an idea what the issue might be and whether I should find a cat-specific tech (hard to get service onsite at my marina due to their insurance rules, limited options).

    One engine had an injector pump rebuilt about three years ago.

    Hull and gear should be clean, I have routine diver service and he's good about sending me pics if he finds anything amiss. Hauled, soda-blasted and painted less than two years ago, props were tuned up too.

    Potential over-prop is something I've learned about since it was hauled, it's my first boat aside from a seadoo and years of submarines in the Navy. So diesel is what's new to me, I was on the nuke side in that Navy.

    Usually do afternoon sunset cruises for a couple hours at 1000-1200, with maybe 5-10 minutes at higher rpm on average, but not usually above 2000rpm.
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    You need to cruise it at cruise rpms for 30 mins about every 4-6 hours. Props need to be cut, CAT dealer has insurance. I'm sure of that. Smoke might mean engines need new nozzles and injector pump rebuilt or who knows, could just be dirty air filters.
  5. Capt Ralph

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    In the cold air, dirty steam (smoke) may be more obvious.

    Sometimes it takes more that a couple of minutes to blow the junk out. How about 15-30 minutes under a good (90%+) load.
    Get those temps and really heat up the exhaust system and blow that gunk out well.

    After some good runs, check out the smoke.
    Here in the swamps, we put our face in the exhaust to determine how much un-burnt fuel is actually in the smoke.
    If it burns your eyes, it's fuel. Overloaded, poor turbo action, clogged air filters, leaking injector(s).

    But before you can worry about any of this and end up on your knees (or bent over); Service the engines including fresh air, case and fuel filters.
    Correct oil and oil filters.
    Do you have factory prop spec? Ensure you make RPM per factory spec/HP.

    Old diesels don't like to idle around for long periods. It takes 10 minutes for our ole engines to start to clear up, come to temperature and start to preform after a day of fast idling around.

    Lets get some oil lab reports posted and keep them coming.

    Take two aspirin after this and call us back.
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  6. Lunderic

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    Agree with all the expert advice so far and would add clean and service the aftercooler and turbo. I would clean mine every 2-3 years and was always amazed at how much oily residue builds up restricting airflow especially in seasons I did a lot of trolling.

    Good Luck
  7. Merlinj79

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    Thanks guys. I checked, the CAT dealer is on the list so that's good. I actually worked for them years ago, probably still know some folks.

    Filters and fluids have been done annually since I owned the boat, most recently in Dec 25. The only thing that's changed in the last two years is that the PO went to Catalina and Mexico on a regular basis, while we've only been trolling around the Bay. So maybe it's just the low speed ops, I'll give it another good hard run for 30 minutes, see if that helps any.

    It's on my list to get the aftercoolers (and turbos) serviced, but I don't know how long it's been and am concerned that if the collars break coming off I'd need new cores, which is of course expensive. Maybe I'll do one and see how it goes so I can stagger them out. I understand I should ensure that brass collars are installed vice aluminum. Again the last oil analysis didn't show any sodium, so they probably weren't leaking two years ago.

    The tech didn't get an oil sample in Dec (miscommunication), how many hours should I run before getting a sample that will be valid? I might be doing 5 hours/month.

    For prop spec, do I need it hauled so a pro can evaluate what's on there? Or if my diver took pictures would that provide enough info?
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    Oil samples every 200 hours , when hot, before or with your oil change.
    You looking for fuel, carbon and signs of piston wash from over fueling or incomplete combustion.
    Oil labs from a good shop should always be preformed and records kept.
    I use the CAT SOS kits.
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    I'm not sure, Is OA still up? With your hull number call them and ask for factory prop spec.

    Next question here; How much Stuff on board?
    Live-aboard clothing?
    Tools & spares?
    Mother in-law gifts?
    Extra batteries? I took a beating with my inverter battery bank and second gen-set.
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    Messing with Pandora's Box. Be careful.
    Some folk have had good success by spraying in a mist of Marvel Mystery Oil for cleaning.

    Start soaking everything with PB Blaster long before you try to take anything apart.
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    I recently sold a 50 ft boat that had 435 hp 3208s with about 3,000 hours on one of the engines and it still ran excellent. The key is maintenance. No matter what, you MUST get the aftercoolers serviced - both. In my 16 years and 2500 hours I put on my 3208s I put two new sets of aftercoolers and it was about ready for a third set. They last about 8-10 years depending on usage. If they fail, and that usually means a small internal leak at the collar, they will allow seawater into the combustion chamber which will lead to engine failure. there have been many failed 3208s because of this. You must properly service the aftercoolers based on usage and hours. The aftercoolers fail by letting seawater into the engine combustion process and these have a poor design that allows condensation in the aftercooler to drip into the engine and dissimilar metals in the aftercooler core that WILL fail over time.

    I ran my 3208s at 1200 to 1400 RPMs for many hours with occasional runup to 2300 RPMs to clean them out. If you at 1300 to 1400 RPMs my experience was I could do this for as much as 50 hours with very little smoke when I did run them up. The key here is that above 1200 RPMs the cylinder pressures and temps are much better than at 900 or 1000 RPMs.

    You MUST remedy your WOT RPM problem. 200 off 2800 is way too much and will lead to shortened engine life. You need to be close to 2800 RPMs WOT for these engines. I almost never cruised above 2300 RPMs on my engines.

    You need to keep up on the cooling system. These engines will run hot as soon as there is any drop in cooling system performance. The gear coolers are notorious for getting clogged. I circulated Barnacle Buster through my engines about once a year and this works if done properly.

    Smoke can be caused by worn out turbos. How is your turbo pressure? Dirty bottom can cause problems, being over propped is a problem, is your crank case vent filter clean and your air filters? If its both engines it is less likely to be a failed injector or injection pump. If the oil level is too high in these engines, the aftercoolers load up with oily coating and this can cause performance loss and smoke.
  12. Merlinj79

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    All good info, thanks. Definitely will figure out the props and service the AC's.

    Cooling system is maintained regularly, temps look normal. Hull is cleaned every 3-4 weeks.

    Boat is lightly loaded, not a live-aboard.

    The engines just got fluids and filters, so the oil level was at the top. I may not have run the engines hard with the oil all the way full before. Would they tend to burn oil at the top of the dipstick normal range?
  13. Capt J

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    They're smoking because they're overloaded, you need to take pitch out of the props and get the rpms up where they should be,
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    I agree engines are overloaded but if it were me I would immediately take care of engine maintenance items first then sea trial and adjust props. First easy thing is pull air filters and spin turbo blades by hand (not running of course), and make sure they spin freely. Then service the A/C's. I've had a gummed up turbo cause loss of RPM's and same with after coolers when I waited too long to service. Either way I wouldn't run boat being in current condition.