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56M Perini S/Y Bayesian Sinks During Palermo Storm

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by kevin8tor, Aug 19, 2024.

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  1. Yacht News

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    "Bayesian" is now on the hard.
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    As you can see here...

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    I see the anchors are gone. Wouldn't that be in the supposed investigation?

    Now it is taking up pier time. Inspect her, sue the flag and mfg.
    Then clean her from oil and fuel and put that POS back out as an artificial reef somewhere.
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    I think one anchor is still inside to starboard. They had only one anchor down.

    POS.... probably wrong three words, if all POS had a fully intact hull after all that happened and ten months under water.
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    Well, she was NOT a POS before it sank. Big beautiful ship with some design bugs that was discovered unexpectedly and tragically.
    Not a POS for surviving the sinking and 10 months under water.

    But now, In My Opinion; a POS, a hulk of scrap, a death ship.
    I can not imagine anybody would try to save her.
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    3-letter acronyms that convey 4-letter words are unnecessary. Posts that read like a shipwreck will only serve to sink our traffic.
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    Stuff has 5 letters.
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    I think I can find the so called design bugs in most super yachts nowadays.
    But then this one sank and we can speak about it, the others did not.

    And probably we can speak the same in nearly the same level to the cruise liner industry.
    Most of the shipping-yachting industry it at the mercy of technology and the wow factor since a few decades now.

    In the yachting industry probably the only which strayed away from this is the advancing slowly sportfishing part of it.
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    Interesting thoughts Brother Liam.

    Can you spend some more time on your keyboard and expand to insure were on the same page about the sportfishing part of it?

    Not to distract from this thread, maybe a new thread.
    I'm sure we can insert a pointer to it from here.
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    A look around...

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    I thought a lawsuit was already filed but a EUR 400M+ from the Italian Sea Group as been filed against the owners. I really cannot understand any legal basis for which this would be a feasible lawsuit nor the amount they are trying to get. We will see how it plays out. I hope this lawsuit will cause even more orders to go different ways as even if they were giving you a good deal on a build, this is not the type of builder I would want to do business with.
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    File a massive law suit that demands media attention. Use such an outlandish value that makes the statement that you must be right in your position. In the US there would be a counter suit that would make you liable for all attorney fees if you lose. Case would be dropped. This just feels evil and desperate and likely accomplishes exactly the opposite of their intent.
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    Sixty-four-knot winds on the beam—and possibly less—was all it would take to capsize Bayesian with her centerboard up, British accident investigators have concluded.

    According to the U.K. Marine Accident Investigating Branch (MAIB), neither the owner or the skipper would have known this because the yacht’s vulnerability was “not identified in the stability information book carried on board.” In the MAIB interim report released today, investigators wrote

    https://loosecannon.substack.com/p/bayesian-skipper-couldnt-have-known


    Wolfson concluded that the angle of vanishing stability in this condition was 70.6 degrees. This is a few degrees less even than what stability experts had concluded in articles published here in Loose Cannon last year.

    Consulting British weather experts, MAIB also concluded that conditions off Sicily on the night of August 19, 2024 were easily “sufficient to knock Bayesian beyond its angle of vanishing stability.” That’s because Bayesian could capsize in any winds of of 63.4 knots or higher