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Any pre-show events for Miami Yacht/Boat Show 2022?

Discussion in 'Boat Shows & Yacht Watching' started by Drifter, Feb 6, 2022.

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  1. Drifter

    Drifter Member

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    I am in town until Monday Feb 14. Any pre-show happenings of interest? Set-ups open to the public? When do boats start arriving?
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    Any buyer's brokers in town early?
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    A thousand brokers here, always. I don't understand that question.
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    Hey, Drifter -- Welcome to So. Fl. Fl. has approximately 2500 licensed yacht brokers, the vast majority of whom are in driving distance to wherever you are.

    Judy
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    Including Judy....
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    Sorry for the dumb question, but are brokers mostly independents? Or members of a group similar to realtors? If they are members of a group like realtors, I was thinking maybe some would have a booth at one of the shows and possibly arrive early to set up. How else do independents get found besides word of mouth? Booths are quite expensive for an independent.

    I've owned 3 boats, working my way up in size, and planning for the future.

    What are the smart questions to ask when interviewing a broker besides how many years experience and deals have they done? Is licensure required? Do some have advanced mechanical degrees or is that mostly for inspectors? Thank you in advance.
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    I've owned 3 boats, working my way up in size, and planning for the future.

    What are the smart questions to ask when interviewing a broker besides how many years experience and deals have they done? Is licensure required? Do some have advanced mechanical degrees or is that mostly for inspectors? Thank you in advance.
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    Hi Judy, can you PM me your contact info?
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    Broker shopping, now we can get somewhere. If you are looking for a buyers broker, one question is to ask if they will represent you as a buyer. No all brokers are keen on that as the commission is then split between two brokerages/brokers.

    Brokers are not mostly independent. Most are linked to brokerages like realtors. There are plenty of brokerage booths.

    Working your way up to any thing in particular? You will first want to really get an ideas as to your intended use and intended navigable waterways are.

    You seem to be interested in pre boat show early arrival. Most of this stuff in VIP invite only. You know like current and previous customers getting to see the show early with a feeling of VIP status and maybe even a VIP pass:)
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    Good idea!
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    Interviewing a broker is as much about the questions they ask you as the ones you ask them. They should make a real effort to understand you, your needs, and your plans. They should show they are listening.

    As to your questions, ask how many others they've represented as buyer's broker. Also, understand they have listings and discuss how you would handle if they wanted to show you their listings. Ask for a copy of their buyer's broker agreement and how they handle boats you find without their involvement or after termination of their services. Ask how many boats of the type you're seeking they've handled in the last two years. Ask what they see as the biggest challenges. Ask what they require from you as their client. You're trying to build a relationship so everything talked about is part of the evaluation.
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    Judy got this newbie through the "experience" as a buyers broker with no issues. I feel that she went above and beyond being my representative in the transaction.
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    The other thing about brokers, is they tend to specialize in one type of yacht. Some are sportfish, some have primarily motoryachts, some have primarily trawler listings. Easiest is to find one that has a lot of listings in the type of yacht you're looking for. You can't expect a Chevy salesman to be knowledgable about Mercedes........for example.
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    Sadly, there are lots of ex used car sales swabs trying to sell boats.
    Oh, That's yellow primer!!

    So, you do need to interview your agent and ensure not an artist , someone you can work with.
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    Personally I don’t expect a broker to be knowledgeable in anything except the rules regulating his profession. Your broker’s job isn’t to guide you into choosing a boat, or a boat type, or to be familiar with its performance or mechanicals.

    yes, a few are very familiar with certain of boat, like Judy here, but that s the exception not the rule

    most brokers seem very familiar with cup holders, pop up TVs and yacht controllers. :)

    if you need technical help before survey your best option is to hire a knowledgeable and experience captain for a few days.
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    I do not want to hijack this thread, but firstly I must say thanks for all of the support!

    For clarification, I specialize in trawlers, but I previously personally owned 80-100 foot sailboats and my own 30' fishing boat. Out of my approximate 300 yacht sales, perhaps 200 have been trawlers. My last motoryacht sale was a McQueen 90.

    Thanks again to all!

    Judy
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    In JUDY, we trust!!!
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    Our goals would be marina hopping the south west Florida coast and Bahamas. Our kids want to bring significant others, so a 55-60 foot cruiser with 3 BR seems to be the best option. I've been told the full beam aft master layout is best, but I've seen some layouts with a master queen bow and double singles in the other 2 BR with filler cushions. My wife thinks she likes galley up. I don't think a trawler has the look we want (sorry Judy!). I will captain it myself. I will have dockage later this year. Any cruiser brokers you all can recommend?

    Also, should I consider possibly purchasing a SLIGHTLY more expensive, more desirable boat by day chartering the boat part time with a per diem captain to help pay the bills in SWFL? Or does the insurance and availability of captains make this prohibitive unless it's available full time for chartering? I am fairly married to the Fort Myers to Marco area. Any other advice for how I would go about gauging the demand for day chartering in that area other than talking to the few live aboard day charter captains in that area? It seems like a more family-oriented area so I don't foresee as much demand for day partiers and most families will get sticker shocked for a day cruise.
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    You are on quite a journey, you don't know what you don't know is really true when it comes to larger boats. I am not sure if we are all in that boat but trust me, it is a steep learning curve. What I am getting at is that you will have plenty of boats that fit your intended use locations and purposes. Just of the top from your initial ideas you can look at SeaRays, Maritimo, Rivieras, Sunseeker, Princess, Galeon, Prestige, the list goes on.
    Really get focused on your intended use, then start looking at features that are on your list. Hull and deck pleasing to the eye, cruising speed avaiable, is full beam owner cabin a deal breaker, do you really like galley up or down, is flybridge important, how do you like to stow the dinghy, does the engine room access and space please you. Know this is a very cursory list. But these are things to think about as you shop. You won't have all the answers that is why most of us keep buying different boats as we learn and grow.

    As an opinion, my wife and I prefer galley down. We like that it is an escape from the moorage or dock neighbors, we like that it is separated from the salon living space. But...we have an outdoor galley in the aft deck to enjoy outdoor cooking at time as well. Best of both worlds. Keep in mind that if someone in the family is not a neat freak, galley up can get a bit unsightly.
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  20. Drifter

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    Do you know if there are there any bareboat charters on the FL east coast or Bahamas that will permit me to charter overnight once I pass a competency test? I know of one on the west coast but they rent mostly older boats and trawlers. My wife doesn't want to vacation with a captain, so if no one bareboat charters, am I down to 2 options: trial and error by purchase (potentially expensive mistake) or do I need to get my my captain's license in order to charter?