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azimut 58 atlantis vs sunseeker predator

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by john1999, Feb 13, 2021.

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  1. john1999

    john1999 New Member

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    2017 Azimut Atlantis with v8man 900s v drive,
    upper salon is open but with aft isinglass ac should hopefully be somewhat efficient in south fl
    thoughts on azimut??
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    Sunseeker predators are much better build quality, better ride, better performance etc. Azimuts have a lot of maintenance headaches with wiring, getting parts, build quality, water leaks, getting to items to repair. The aft isinglass completely sucks, ALL of the A/C gets sucked out when you're running at cruise and you also get the noise and going in and out of it sucks at cruise as you try to keep it shut for a/c......
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    the only advantage is the 2017 azimut is $200,000+ less money and i think would be faster with 1200 hp v8 mans
    one of the current sunseekers i looked at is a 2016 with only cat c-15s.good engine but cant help thinking the 57 pred with this power would be under powered vs the azimut option.the azimut at marinemax does show signs of water damage to the owners suite ceiling.with only 200 hours.
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    3 years, 200 hours (too little usage) and you've got a leak in the master ceiling? Not surprised. Good luck. Isinglass in So, Fl. is for when the rains hit. Otherwise it's a magnifying glass for the sun to cook you. Undoubtedly that's factory supplied which means cheap. Expect to replace it within a couple of years. Between Azimut and Sunseeker I'd go Sunseeker for the reasons J stated and more.
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    A friend of mine was full time on a 66' Azimut, by the time the boat was 3 years old, it had 3 different water leaks into the salon. You'll easily spend that $200k fixing stuff in a few years on the Azimut and it will always be worth less than the Sunseeker. The Sunseeker is a better sea boat and better built. HP doesn't exactly mean a boat will be faster. Hull design and weight are major factors to that magic speed number. I'd guess the Sunseeker will cruise 25-27 knots. I'd go for the 60' Sunseeker I posted the link on in an earlier post, it's a freshwater boat in Michigan and looks well kept.
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    Atlantis is at the very low end of Azimuts line up. We looked at one that was 2 years old and it showed like a 10 year old. Plus you don’t want to deal with isenglass. Great if you want a day boat.
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    Are you talking of 2 different boats? There's a helluva difference between the 900 and the 1200.
    Even if both V8, in the latter they redesigned the whole crankcase+crankshaft, and plenty of other stuff.
    Besides, by heart I would have said that by 2017 that model did include a cockpit glass door.
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    yes some do have a cockpit door,however the 2017 at ,marinemax does not,
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    The strataglass across the rear completely sucks in an express. I had one owner sell a 55' express because of it. When you're running all of your air conditioning gets sucked out, and a lot more engine noise.
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    In this case, I would agree with C J.
    Nothing wrong with a fully open layout per se, mind.
    At that size, here in the Med I would say that it's a more popular layout, cockpit doors being more common at 65+ feet.
    But nobody would even think of running A/C while cruising.
    If that's a must for you, you'd better look at something that can be properly shut.
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    That Cat 57 predator is only 715 hp. It’s underpowered. Look for one with Volvo 900’s.