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  1. NYCAP123

    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    Guess you've never been here in summer. lol. I've seen many funky hoses here too. Every spring you see them in the marina dumpsters.
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    Pretty much any hose other than white, although many garden hoses have a thin color layer over that familiar clear vinyl hose with a thread matrix in it. We had a red rubber industrial type of garden (utility) hose that definitely was opaque.
    The trade off will be where the hose transfers to the hull as it drags over step edges and corners.
    I've found them to be pretty short lived, but the compact expanding hoses with cloth covers are really good at not making a clean boat dirty. A true believer that owned a yacht I worked in the Northwest, told me that the best ones are the ones with brass ends. Just avoid the ones with valves on the end, since the brass valve handle can chip a nice divot out of paint or gelcoat when dropped. A pressure regulator helps them last longer, too.
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    There is all kinds of good info on how to chlorinate water tanks and systems. There are also FDA regulations and guidance. We do this all the time on ships after we have been in the tanks or worked on the piping. General rule of thumb is to bring it up to 50 ppm of chlorine and let sit 24- 36 hrs. Run it through all the faucets and fixtures. Then empty the tank and refill with clean water and flush through all fixtures. You can get cheap and simple chlorine test strips to make sure level is safe to drink. General rule of thumb going by memory is 1 cup per 50 gallons of typical 6% bleach solution. But please verify as I’m going from my unreliable memory.
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    I hope your not talking about a drinking or ships water hose.
    Your missing the potable spec required for drinking water.
    Takes a lot of filtering to get that leaching rubber, odor and taste back out of the water.

    IMO, This potable spec is what reduces the life span of most water hoses.
  5. d_meister

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    You're right about those stinky rubber hoses; they're never good for tank filling. As mentioned somewhere upstream, drain and store the tank filler hose. The magic expando hoses could be fine for potable water, since the hose core is like surgical tubing. At least the one's I've dissected after they blew were. The problem with using them for tank filling, is that without a restriction on the end, like a pressure nozzle, the things pull back to their core hose length of under 10' and diameter of 1/4" or so.
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    And come out of the tank fill and start whipping around.
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    Lucky for us, I never purchase anything "as seen on TV".
    Nope, never messed with those expand-o hoses, never will..

    Never messed with anything else advertised on TV. Not missing a thing.
    TV ads just piss me off.
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    "But wait! There's more!"
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    The expandable hoses work great for rinsing and chamoising. Either the zero g, or the pocket hose. They stow easily, lightweight, don’t leave marks, etc. for that purpose they’re awesome and belong in every deck locker.........just don’t use them for dockside water or to fill a deck tank.
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    Every year I buy 2 of these hoses, one for my wife to water plants with and one to wash our car with. They generally blow out around the start of the 2nd season. They're very convenient, but definitely not to be depended on. I've had the coil type, the green super light flexible type with plastic ends and the black with cheap brass type. "Disposo-hoses." I like the green type for washdowns cause the plastic ends are less likely to scratch fiberglass, but totally agree "just don’t use them for dockside water or to fill a deck tank" unless you're monitoring it.
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    The zero g ones have a 5 year warranty, just save the receipt and take them back to Lowe’s or hd. I usually get a couple of years out of them. Either zero g, or pocket hose brand. Pocket hose stows really small.
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    And do you, saved receipt in hand, return them with 3 years left on the warranty?:D Yes the zero-g hold up a little better than the green. That's why I use them at my house for the car and flowers. But for a travel hose on boats I prefer the green for the plastic couplings simply to protect the glass. For serious duty though such as home slip washdown (or at home for my above ground sprinkler system) only the red or black Craftsman hoses will do. They're heavy though.
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    I used one of THESE at the dock in Campbell River, Canada. They have some serious water pressure, there. Can't say that it helped with longevity, for sure.
    The last time I bought a pocket hose, I read all the info that came with it. I was surprised to see that it shouldn't be left out in the sun. It doesn't surprise me that the latex surgical-type tube inside wouldn't like UV, but would have thought the nylon fabric cover would adequately shield it.
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    My pocket hoses were kept under an overhang, no direct sunlight. Doesn't help. 2 blew apart at the male end and one several places along the length. The are what they are, light, convenient and made to last only a few months. Perfect for city folk.
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    Lol! I'm just seeing this post. I only have seen or used the white hoses. Where I'm at in Cape May, my hose get nasty pretty quickly. I use two 25' sections of hose so I can break it open when I leave and drain the line easier.