More Covid 19

Just heard about that this morning. Quite frankly I can't say when I've ever seen a cruise ship anchored. That's a man (or 1,000) without a country. Tragic! NOBODY should be getting on a cruise ship during this. Flying the same thing unless absolutely necessary. We all heard how our legislators felt having to come back to D.C. the other day, and I figure they know more about what's going on than I do. I'll be anxious to hear when this gets figured out. Even then I think they'll be days away from port. Tragic.

The one with 4 dead on it has been trying to pull into Port Everglades for several days now. Many people are fighting it. Most think they should pull into their flag state country!

They have to be allowed to get help for their passengers. I'm done with these Me, Me, Me people. We all have to do everything we can to help everyone we're able to. We need to all work together. We are a global community in this if nothing else. And yes Pascal, anyone who gets on one today needs their head examined, but you can't mandate smarts unfortunately. Maybe worse still, and not mentioned, is that those ships at anchor mentioned may not have passengers, but they still have crew aboard.

I watch Marinetraffic every day to track friends movements and also to see what is out and about in and off of San Diego. There are 9 cruise ships either tied to docks, at anchor, or drifting in the San Diego to Los Angeles area. Disney Wonder has been tied up for a couple of weeks, here, and the Maasdam arrived two days ago.
Ironically for the passengers on the Maasdam when it arrived two days ago, after a month at sea due to landing restrictions, they disembarked from a COVID-19 free ship.
The count:
3 in San Diego harbor
2 anchored outside of Ensenada "waiting for orders"
1 steaming and drifting offshore
2 anchored at L.A. harbor
1 Berthed in L.A.
Most are Carnival ships.

Good video, thank you for sharing.

With the growth of the cruise industry about 500,000 people are at sea at any given time. There was no mainland protocol in place for what to do when a worldwide pandemic is declared and an assortment of presidents. premiers, governors, health authorities, mayors, port authorities and others made up (and changed) policy on the go. The resulting chaos is therefore expected and I think the big cruise lines have done pretty well under the circumstances. At the end of the day being on a ship is no worse than being with 300 others in a hermetically sealed cigar tube 37,000 feet up breathing recirculated air. And somehow, we have to get everybody home. Nobody needs a new Exodus.
So when this is over, and it will be over, and before the next pandemic and there will be one, there needs to be an international agreement that set procedures and protocols for docking ships and offloading passengers and crew. The current mess can be excused because the world wasn't expecting this and had no plan. If it happens again it will be inexcusable.

30 minutes of sub-titles is well worth reading. Thank you for the info Lars.

Agree with you on this one: If they flag out to avoid taxes, they should get no US aid. (Ask Bahamas, Liberia or Panama for a few $ Hundred Million to keep the fleet afloat while the Corona crises)

No. Many of these cruises were after knowledge. The cruises were very simply the cruise lines choosing money over morality.

Agreed, help the ship get to their country with enough supplies. That is very generous considering they choose money over safety. I flew some of the legislatures to DCA and shared their concern and voiced my own concern for being a sacrificial essential service. I flew four flights over two days with a total combined passenger load of 100 out of 680 available seats. A number of the passengers were airline employees deadheading. Cargo and supplies makes sense, people wanting to go north to prep their summer homes or cheap seats to Cabo, ridiculous! These were the reason some gave me for flying.