Click for Burger Click for Mulder Click for Mag Bay Click for JetForums Click for Nordhavn

Coronavirus Covid 19 and Marine Industry

Discussion in 'YachtForums Yacht Club' started by olderboater, Feb 29, 2020.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Oscarvan

    Oscarvan Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2015
    Messages:
    969
    Location:
    Chesapeake Bay
    That doesn't look like 6 feet to me.
  2. Rodger

    Rodger Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    Messages:
    832
    Location:
    St.Catharines
    This is going to far

    Thunder Bay icebreaking by USCG delayed due to border restrictions

    3/21 - Thunder Bay, ON – The U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Alder that was expected to clear ice in the Thunder Bay harbor this week, has been held back due to border crossing restrictions as a result of the COVID-19 crisis. Instead, the Canadian Coast Guard Cutter Samuel Risley will arrive early next week to free up wintering ships at Keefer Terminal and open passages for the navigation season.

    Chronicle-Journal
  3. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,725
    Location:
    Satsuma, FL
    Cruise line bail outs?

    eocsdcixdwn41a.jpg
  4. rtrafford

    rtrafford Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2019
    Messages:
    1,584
    Location:
    Vero Beach
    My thought was "why bail them out"...then realized we would and likely need to, so then I went to leasing the ships from the companies and stationing them along the coasts to serve as Corona Medical Centers.

    I see 20-30 ships grouped together on AIS underneath Freeport, "sheltering in place", empty, avoiding port fees and travel bans.
  5. olderboater

    olderboater Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Messages:
    7,132
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    Fine if we want to lease ships, but I see no reason to bail the cruise lines out. I'd say give them the same tax credits (which they don't pay so meaningless) and support to pay any US employees that we give others, but otherwise nothing. We've got far more businesses in need than we can help so I don't see bailing out the cruise industry as making sense. Now the fact Micky Arison and our President have already talked does make me think we will help them.
  6. d_meister

    d_meister Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Messages:
    469
    Location:
    La Conner, WA.
    Posters on other forums suggest that any assistance is tied to re-flagging as U.S. and the hiring of U.S. Mariners.
  7. olderboater

    olderboater Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Messages:
    7,132
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    Nice dream.
  8. RER

    RER Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2009
    Messages:
    1,540
    Location:
    Newport Beach CA
    You can speculate all you want, but the cruise ship industry and the country are both in uncharted waters right now. The whole world is for that matter.
  9. d_meister

    d_meister Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Messages:
    469
    Location:
    La Conner, WA.
    One can dream, and one can act. I know it isn't much, but I've written to my U.S. Senator to broach the subject. How often do things not turn out the way we would hope (and dream) because politicians are not informed on the matter?
  10. YachtForums

    YachtForums Administrator

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2002
    Messages:
    20,375
    Location:
    South Florida
    Watched a CNN special last night that originally aired in 2017; Unseen Enemy. It’s worth watching if you can access on demand. The show explores the origins of viruses and pandemics such as Ebola, SARS, H1N1, etc. While this could have evolved from animal to human, one has to wonder why Wuhan was the epicenter of the outbreak; the same city that China’s Level 4 bio weapons lab is located. Coincidence?
  11. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Messages:
    8,149
    Location:
    Miami, FL
    I think there are more urgent needs than supporting corporations that foreign flag their cattle ship to save money on labor... and I wonder how taxes a company like carnival actually pays here.

    as to the marine industry, the closing and sealing of all marinas in Miami Dade and in the keys is putting thousands of contractors out of work. Boat washers, detailers, divers etc. many of them living week to week. But you can’t expect professional bureaucrats like the maimi Dade mayor and his high paid advisers to worry about things like that.
  12. cleanslate

    cleanslate Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    Messages:
    1,648
    Location:
    Cherry Hill, NJ
    Well I have to say most of you on here , like myself, have spent many years on boats in one form or another. And have spent the same amount of years building up a hardy boaters immunity from all of the mold ,mildew, clogged heads-yacht poo, bilge skank ( yes, O.B. I bet I could find some somewhere on one of your boats too- lol) , various paint fumes, sanding dust, caustic @#$% in general, that we will be rather safe from this awful virus.

    I hope this holds true.
    That being said I am performing all the recommended safe things to do.
  13. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,434
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    How do you seal marinas? That's an essential business. Boats need management or they sink or fall into some kind of peril, What about live-aboards?
  14. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2008
    Messages:
    8,149
    Location:
    Miami, FL
    I finally got dinner key to clarify that live aboards can get to their boats as normal. But we re not allowed to leave the marina. Non LA are allowed to go check on their boats but not work on them, not take them out and not loiter. Police at the entrance.

    no workers allowed. I guess an owner can designate a captain or manager to access the boat and check on it.

    it s pure madness
  15. cleanslate

    cleanslate Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    Messages:
    1,648
    Location:
    Cherry Hill, NJ
    Nope. Looks like it got stuck to the bottom of one's shoe.
    Problem is just about all countries , USA for sure , has these warfare bio-labs. could happen anywhere.
  16. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,434
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    This makes no sense. Being out on the water is about the safest place you can be, aside from being locked in your house. I've heard boat ramps are closed in Miami. Here the ICW is an absolute zoo, packed with boats out on the water, boat ramps are also open. I overheard a family say they had to trailer all of the way up from Miami to use their boat.
  17. olderboater

    olderboater Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Messages:
    7,132
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    Well, the ICW is packed with boats today in our area. At least from Port Everglades to Pompano.
  18. cleanslate

    cleanslate Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2018
    Messages:
    1,648
    Location:
    Cherry Hill, NJ
    J the clamp down is coming your way. Here in Jersey no one is allowed to be out on the roads anytime. Only can go out for food/groceries, hardware store, and thank god the liquor store. Take out only food is allowed.
    Everything is closed otherwise. Boating wise here, it's not in full swing yet as you know. But a lot of the barrier NJ islands are closed-open to residence only. So you can not get the marinas and your boat.
    Cape May so far is still open. But it won't surprise me that they close the bridges over the CM canal , and only let residence only through. Then I will be cut off from my boat which is out of the water at least.
  19. jsschieff

    jsschieff Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    183
    Location:
    Middletown RI/Stuart FL
    There will be so many lost sales due to the virus. A yacht broker friend I talked to today had two pending sales postponed or lost -- both buyers 70+ and not leaving their houses.

    But boaters are still using their boats. I overlook the ICW in Stuart FL and it looked like every center console and express cruiser in Martin County was out today -- hundreds and hundreds of boats roaring north and south and nearby sandbars were packed. I was out in my center console yesterday and it was very busy between Stuart and Jupiter.
  20. olderboater

    olderboater Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2013
    Messages:
    7,132
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    Well, I don't need roads to use my boats. Can easily maintain 6' from other boats. Also while Plan A and Plan B don't, Plan D or so includes one or more people quarantined on a boat or two at our house.

    We do need a greater lockdown. Then defining essential business and travel becomes the conflict. Gamestop declared they were an essential business. Our Florida businesses are on a lockdown except still online and shipping and hardware stores still open for pickup only. Even if everything is closed though we still have a few employees each day who will be essential, payroll and HR. We can do the vast majority from home, but do have to pick up mail and go through it. Yesterday, out of an office of 250, we had 8 people in the office in total, most only a couple of hours and far apart. Fortunately we do nearly everything electronically as we no longer offer the option of checks to employees. To meet the legal requirement we do offer payroll debit cards.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.