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Discussion in 'General Sportfish Discussion' started by Knight, Sep 27, 2016.

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  1. Knight, Sep 27, 2016
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    Hello all, I know this is my second post so here it goes. I've been reading this forum for months and learned something new every time I jumped on. Being a little shy I figured Ill search for answers instead asking questions you've answered my times. After all considered I'm in love with older Hatteras's and viking. From what I can tell they are tanks and the most sea worthy with the customer service to back them up. I've been looking at SP in the 50fts, 70s through 90s. But now that I decided to invest in property at the marina, now I'm looking at something smaller. But there's so much room for error without the right knowledge. I'm looking at spending 100k or less. I could stretch it up to 125k if the right one came along.

    So please tell me the boats I've been watching for a year or more are still for sale. Very little price reductions or the same and still sitting. Whats the reason? Economy, too old or plan to much money. I've been holding out for a decent deal and I'm hoping to use the season to my advantage coming up. Any ideas or suggestions..... I'm open for discussion or further wisdom.

    Thanks in advance
  2. Ormond Bert54, Oct 1, 2016
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    You're going to need to start looking at some boats ... $100k will not go far if a boat needs work. Your best value should be a boat in perfect, continually maintained and upgraded condition.
  3. Knight, Oct 1, 2016
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    I've looked at quite a few already but mostly in 50 to 60ft. 200 to 300k. I'm going to look at smaller ones once I close on the beach house and have somewhere to put it. Fingers crossed...
  4. Capt J, Oct 2, 2016
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    Smaller than 50' I'd look directly at Cabo's
  5. Knight, Oct 2, 2016
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    What's reason for Cobo? I'm not familiar with those. My broker has not mentioned that brand just viking, Hatteras, Bartram, and ocean's.
  6. Capt J, Oct 2, 2016
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    Under 50' Cabo's have the best build quality, very good riding hulls, nice layout, just a great all around boat. I wouldn't touch a Bertram of any size. I'd take a really hard look at a 50' Post and would prefer that much before an Ocean. The older 48' Viking SF of the 80's were wet boats and pounded a little.
  7. Knight, Oct 2, 2016
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    Im glad I ask, this whole time ive never considered Cobo or Post. Where does Hatteras sit with your opinion? Also I notice a few having cummings or have been repowered with them. What advantages and disadvantages of a cummings vs detroit?
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    Hatteras are built well, but in the ages you're looking I'd jump to Cabo over them. The Cabo's ride better than the Hatteras. More stable, much much better cockpit. Cummins are good, cleaner, more fuel efficient than the Detroits, reliable. Post 50' is roomy, fuel efficient, stable, but I'd say a step below Hatteras and Cabo, but would put them above Ocean, Bertram, and others.
  9. Knight, Oct 2, 2016
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    Wow theres not many out there, mostly 35s. Nice to see Cobo uses cats, ive read there the better diesels? I plan on doing all the maintenance myself. That being said whats the most maint, repair friendly?
  10. Capt J, Oct 2, 2016
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    Cat,Cummins, and Detroit. Cabo is a very maintanence friendly boat as they all came with built in oil changing pumps and most items are easily accessible.
  11. Knight, Oct 2, 2016
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    Thanks for the words of wisdom, i will take it seriously. Theres not many for sale in my price range, probably a good reason for that.....
  12. slipkid, Oct 3, 2016
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    Most are still for sale because most need lots of work. Everybody's finances are different so I'm not preaching but be prepared for lots of maintenance cost. If you want to keep it in like new running condition it costs significant dollars. Sometimes I like to joke that I drive a new Audi off the end of the dock every year. But I'm not joking; that is about what I spend. And this year it is two Audi's.
  13. Knight, Oct 3, 2016
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    Yes I agree, a survey will show most of it and my final offer will reflect what needs to be done if not disclosed before hand. My budget will be 25k a year but I'm only estimating. Most I can do myself except internal engine issues. Haven't decided on bottom scraping yet lol...
  14. Knight, Oct 3, 2016
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    Anyone have an idea the biggest boat that can be hauled by truck?
  15. Capt J, Oct 3, 2016
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    There are A LOT of variables. Cabo trucked all of them up to their 52'. BUT the bridge boats had the bridge off of them as well as props. The expresses just props. Could only get the 52' as far as Georgia, not Florida.

    On used boats, LOTS of stuff usually has to come off to ship one of any size.
  16. Knight, Oct 4, 2016
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    Sounds like more trouble than its worth. I found a couple in FL I liked but getting it here might present a problem or large Expense. I would imagine I could hire a captain to bring it but I'm sure fuel would be my biggest cost?
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    Silverado.jpg
  18. Knight, Oct 5, 2016
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    Lol got to be photoshoped
  19. RER, Oct 5, 2016
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    ...it's not. The boat is SILVERADO built by Willard Marine in Costa Mesa CA in 1974. At that time it was reported to be the largest fiberglass boat ever built. In this photo the boat is on the Newport Blvd bridge crossing over Pacific Coast Highway enroute from the yard in Costa Mesa to launching in Newport Beach.

    I just saw SILVERADO a couple of months ago when I stopped for fuel in Cabo. They were taking on fuel also and heading to Alaska where I believe they still are at this time.
  20. Knight, Oct 6, 2016
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    Probably charged a fortune to move it back then. Theres a lot more power lines to make that move today. Cool pic though
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