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  1. Carver38

    Carver38 Member

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    Well, I'll miss her, but she's gone!

    After a long winter (2013/2014) remodeling her from bow to stern and doing all kinds of maintenance that had been deferred, and upgrading all kinds of things, we enjoyed our Carver 3807 all Spring and Summer.

    But as I have mentioned here in other threads, we got the itch for something bigger and put her up for sale, and lo and behold, we actually found a buyer right on our own dock, just a few boats down from us!

    A very nice couple heard she was for sale and came to look, and the rest is history.

    NOW WHAT????

    My wife and I are happy on one hand that we can now shop for another "new to us" boat, but sad to be "boatless" (although since it's the end of the season, not exactly heartbroken) and we really want to find another boat that with good luck and better planning will be our LAST boat. (I'm 60, she's 55....we don't want to buy a string of boats.....just one more, and the right one, to last us the rest of our boating lives. Does that make sense? Further, is it even possible?)

    We heard, while we owned our boat, many many stories about the incredible deals all around us where a boat had sold for a fraction of it's value......where do WE find a deal like that?? LOL!

    We know we like the aft cabin and the motoryacht styles, we want three staterooms with a very comfortable master for us, and we have a budget of around $250K or less. (preferably less)

    We want something that will be boat that we can go out on the water on, not just sit at the dock, but we don't see ourselves doing The Loop either.

    I've started looking on yachtworld and boattrader, but the choices are overwhelming!

    Any suggestions?
  2. P46-Curaçao

    P46-Curaçao Senior Member

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    Congratulations, selling your Carver so quickly!

    I would buy as new as possible, and take some time to investigate as much as possible, time is always your friend!
  3. Monepit

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    The carver voyager series is an awesome boat. We have a 45 and it is our last boat as you describe. If you want 3 staterooms you will need a 53 though. Ours is 2 S/R but that is all we want. Be sere to find a freshwater boat as the salt can really shorten the life. Ours is a 99 and no one can tell it from new. You can get a nice 45 in the 200 range. A 53 can be had in the 250s but for that it will probable be salt. They are great boats.
  4. Maybe Knot

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    The second happiest day of a boat owner's life......
  5. Carver38

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    I thought of that old joke, but the funny thing is, I really don't feel that way!

    We really enjoyed our first boat and put a huge effort into making it as nice as it could be, and everyone who saw it complimented it on how wonderful it looked, especially those who knew the boat before we took over.

    We sold it very quickly and even had a little "seller's remorse" afterwards as we packed up all our belongings! (AMAZING how much "stuff" we had accumulated on the boat in only one season of use!)

    Of course now there's the excitement of shopping for another boat and we look forward to finding that "killer deal" we're hoping for, but there's that ever-present fear we'll be one of those unfortunates that blow an engine on the ride home, or otherwise find out we have a laundry list of issues far bigger than the list the surveyor will ultimately turn up.

    We will do plenty of due diligence and be as careful as we can be, but I'm sure the people that had catastrophe strike soon after buying thought they did all the right things too!

    I wish we were well-heeled enough to buy a brand new boat, but in the size range and amenities we want, it's going to be another oldie......we just have to try to ensure it's an "oldie but goodie"!
  6. Maybe Knot

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    I know EXACTLY what you mean!

    I bought my 3607 mostly as an investment. It was a repo, and I feel like I stole it. Now, as the boating season draws to a close, I'm not ready to part with it. I have had 3 or 4 calls from people saying: "Hey, I've got somebody that wants to look at your boat". It's just not for sale at this time.

    I love the marina where I am docked, and I love the people, and I love the parties. I have some of the best neighbors in the world there. The slip directly behind mine, the guy is retired and lives aboard his boat, so I have 24 hr security. He knows who is supposed to be there, and who ain't.

    Funny thing is, if you were to ask me in April, I would have had no more use for a big boat than I would a rocket ship. Now, I can't imagine not having it.
  7. NYCAP123

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    Congratulations. I'm amazed...if you got out what you put in. But congratualtions either way. You've taken care of the hard part. This is a good time of year to buy.

    That budget is a bit of a killer, especially when you add in the space you want. Big question: What kind of speed are you looking for. The reason I ask is because speed costs money. Are you looking for lunch runs up to Manhattan or Block Island in a day? If so, something has to give, either sea worthiness, quality, space or the budget. If 10-15kts. is ok I think the idea we discussed (an 80's Hatteras) may be on target. However keep in mind that these are much more comfortable to board from the side.
  8. P46-Curaçao

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  9. Carver38

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    Ed,

    Actually, I sort of broke even on the old girl, which is only because I bought it SO right and was extremely careful while getting things refreshed and upgraded to shop carefully, do as much as I could myself, with the help of some wonderful friends, and left only the truly important stuff, like diesel mechanics, to the $100 per hour guys. (sometimes I know when NOT to do the work!)

    So, ultimately, I got my money back, mostly, and whatever I didn't get back I feel was exchanged for a great education and a truly wonderful first boating season! Cathy and I met YOU....that alone was worth the price of admission to the new club!

    I understand what you're saying about speed.....I am ready to trade off speed even to the point of considering a trawler if it's the right choice for both seaworthiness and comfort.

    Believe it or not, (although I have no doubt you'll believe it!) that Hatt we were originally interested in that you and I discussed at length, is STILL for sale! (And right in my price range too! Well under the upper limit!)

    But I remember your cautions and as nice as it looks I can't put your wisdom aside, because I am really afraid if I do it will come back to haunt me.

    But there are others out there, and I want to take my time and find the right boat. That said, I don't want to wait so long everything is winterized....how will I check the boat properly then?

    Regarding the Florida shopping suggestion.....yes, there are a bazillion boats for sale down there, but I'd have to get it home to Atlantic City.....what's that gonna cost....10-15K in fuel maybe depending on the boat? And what a way to find out I have an unforeseen problem....on a 1500 mile leg home! YIKES!

    I have a friend who is ready and willing and even excited about the prospect of captaining a boat home with me from Florida or wherever we find the right one though,so if the deal looked good enough.......hmmmm...! Maybe!

    I sincerely appreciate the suggestions and advice fellas, and I take every response to heart,m so please keep them coming!
  10. P46-Curaçao

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    Getting a boat home can be the best part with the right boat. Instead of doing a delivery, do a series of vacations and holidays and long weekends as your schedule allows, slowly bringing it up the coast.
  12. Carver38

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    Actually it would be South Jersey Craigslist but I'm already checking that and the surrounding areas....no real candidate yet!

    But I'll keep looking!
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    Remember that my cautions may not be the same as yours. So simply consider them things to consider and check into, and match them up with your tollerance.

    Absolutely correct about paying for your education and it being worth every dime. Most of my education comes from the school of hard knocks and I wouldn't change one of those lessons (painful or expensive as they may have been). My most recent came last week when I changed out the battery on my Harley. The rubber cap over the positive terminal was cracked and it contacted the frame as I was trying to get it in.

    Don't worry about having to bring your new boat from a distance. It'll probably be the best education in boating you've had so far (as well as a tremendous adventure). I've brought several owners along when transporting their boats to Florida, and it really is like getting a college education in boating.

    Also, once you get in the 50' range, you need to be looking throughout the eastern U.S. They're spread out. When we got the Hat we checked boats in NY, Ct., R.I., Mass., Md., N.C., Fl, Wi., Ill., Ohio, and considered boats in several other states. However you are up against a clock. Mid-October could be too late to sea-trial and survey boats up on the Great Lakes, and having lived in fresh water is a wonderful selling point. For now I'd concentrate on looking at northern boats mostly, as your time for them is limited. You have all winter to check the southern boats.

    Truthfully I wouldn't spend too much time with Craigslist in this range of boat. The simple fact that it's on CL is a red flag. You'll waste a lot of time there looking for the proverbial needle in the haystack. Plus boats on CL will be of very little use as a negotiating tool. If you can find 3 or 4 comparable boats on YW that would suit your desires, they know what their competition is. That could translate in 10's of thousands of $$$ staying in your pocket.
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    CL is broken down by area. Often cities will have many, covering different areas. FOr instance NY has sperate listings for each borrough, and then many of the neighborhoods within those burroughs. Possibly 20 or 30 areas. Then do you check the area where boats are stored or where the owners are likely to live?

    This is why I'd only recommend CL for looking for smaller boats you want to trailer home. I don't recommend it for serious boats ($100K+) (E-bay the same).
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    If you're not locked into the Carver brand, a friend has a nice diesel Silverton 43MY that's looking for a new owner. If interested, PM me and I'll find a link for you...

    -Chris
  16. NEO56

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    Hi OP, I'd like to recommend taking a look at Californians, tons of living space, and they can be had a reasonable prices. You also might want to take a look at a few older Vikings they made some very nice cockpit motor yachts. Also Hatteras made a line of LRC's (Long Range Cruisers).
  17. timjet

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    Each person has their idea of the perfect boat or perhaps the boat that will most fit your vision of a perfect boat. For us we were very lucky that we did it right the first time. Our '98 Carver 355 has worked perfect for us. It's the right balance of size, cost, speed, maneuverability, cost of maintenance and comfort.

    Having spent this summer cruising north from FL on the ICW we have not been constrained by too deep a draft or too big a boat for a slip. Not too many anchorages are not available. Having the speed to quickly get to a slip or anchorage to avoid a T-storm is very comforting and we've had to do just that a couple of times.

    But this size boat works for us. We don't live aboard her per say though we've spent almost 4 months on her this summer. I would never consider living aboard permanently and of course this would change the equation.

    Spend the time to get it right and it will cost you much less as you know. Good luck.
  18. trmnewt

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    I have a Carver 506--awesome living space, and suitable and a "last boat". 3 cabins, and 3 heads--1 more than most in this size range. And I love the fact that it has no canvas. The Voyagers are nice as the living space is all on one level, but that means a long flight to the bridge. Definitely in your price range!