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Discussion in 'Vintage & Classic Yachts' started by Morrissette, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. Morrissette

    Morrissette New Member

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    For as long as I can remember I have admired the attached painting of my grandfathers yacht. In the 20's he owned a large fishing fleet, this yacht and a house boat in south Florida. During a hurricane he lost everything except for the houseboat. Today all that is left is this painting of the yacht. I was hope some one could tell me what make and the length of the yacht. This painting was done in 1926 three years before the storm.

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  2. bigboatbill

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    I don't know the make of the yacht, but you have a very nice painting of a pretty boat. It would be nice to see a photograph of the entire painting. Good Luck on your quest.
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    Rings a bell..

    Attached are two pictures of my grandfather's yachts... similar lines but clearly not sisterships. Ariel II has been restored and looks like an Elco but was a Herreshoff design. I don't have the details on Ariel III at hand but she burned in a fire shortly after being sold by the estate, and had one sistership I can't track down a thing about.

    Old Lloyd's registers are a great place to start. I wish you good luck in your search!

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  4. Morrissette

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    I will take a full pic of the painting in the morning. The painting is of the "Ferol" pulling into Fort Lauderdale.
  5. Morrissette

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    Attached is a picture of the complete painting of his yacht.

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  6. wscott52

    wscott52 Senior Member

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    I found my grandmother's 2nd husband's yacht through Lloyds Registers and his name. My mother didn't know the yacht's name since it and the husband were long gone before she was born. I won't post it because with a little diligence someone could figure out who I am from the yacht. If your grandfather's name is at all unusual Lloyd's might help you too.
  7. SeaEric

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    That would appear to be a painting by Joe Selby, a noted yacht portrait artist. Very nice.
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    Thanks for posting the entire painting. Hope you have a nice place to hang her.
  9. Morrissette

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    SeaEric thank you for telling me the name of the artist. Was he one of the Highway Men?
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    No, not a Highwayman but much more significant IMHO. Joe Selby was the greatest. His yacht paintings sell for $3000 - $5000 depending on the fame of the yacht subject and the owners' prominence. I consider Selby paintings on par with those of Luca Papaluca and Antonio De Simone if not better. Selby was self taught and never had wide recognition in his lifetime, except by the multi-millionaire yacht owners who commissioned his paintings. Most are still closely held by those families
  12. Manusel

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    Is the name
    Perola or Terola?
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    I have lots of Lloyd's issues and will search and report.
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    The oldest Lloyds that I have is from 1935. From what is posted here the yacht was destroyed prior to that year.
  15. Manusel

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    Ferol does not show up in Lloyd's for 1927 or 1932. However she a Ferol does show up in Merchant Vessels Of The United States (Including Yachts) as #2147o2, av51.0 LWK gas engine patrol vessel built in 1914 in Alton, ILL. In 1932 she was owned by the Louisiana Department of Conversation.
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    She was owned by the Louisiana dept. of Conversation in 1932 as well. I'm thinking that she had at least one previous name, because she is not in Lloyd's 1917.
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    Maybe if Morrissette sends me his grandfather's name, I can search out the history of this vessel.
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    Ferol was listed in Merchant Vessels as a yacht up through 1922. After that she was acquired by the Louisiana Dept. of Conservation and continues to be as such at least until 1951. In 1918 and 1919 she was a yacht homeported in St Louis. In 1923 the homeport changed to New Orleans and she becomes a patrol craft. That must be the year she was acquired by the Department. I sure wish I knew what yard was building 51' yachts in 1914 in Alton, Ill.
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    The yacht shows some very typical style elements of a Luders, but they were in Stamford, CT. The s-shaped curve and the windows aft with portholes fore and aft of them are quite Luders-style, but that could also be misleading. However, from the profile I would guess that this particular yacht was originally built with an open helm station midships and the wheelhouse/salon was added later (probably late 1920s) for convinience.
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    Berndt, I agree about the deck house being an add-on. The slanted windshield would be almost unheard of in 1914 when she was built. You didn't start seeing that until the mid 1930's.
    The Luders signature shear-break ogee scroll is apparent in this photo of "Sasqua".

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