| Lürssen | 180.00M | "AZZAM" ex Project 'Azzam' |2013 |

Kiwi,
His Royal Highness Prince Alwaleed is only worth $25 Billion USD..
His personal wealth is estimated to be $18 billion USD.

So compare him to Roman Abramovich who's personal wealth is only $12.1Billion USD.

So.. high enough on the totem pole? i'll let you decide

Whilst I was working for the UAE royal family there was already word spreading of crew jobs available on the 180 build.

From what I have heard.. The interior design is going to be midevil like.. Stone flooring, torches on the wall kind of stuff..

Just like the exterior then...

Hi,

In the KSA ones pozzie on the pole is related to familial relationships not your bank balance.

As this guy is not the King or Crown Prince I would be very surprised if he had a yacht larger than these two.

Photos?

The anticipation!!!

Far

She is designed by Nauta Yacht Design and is confirmed to be 180m. Apparently, she may be smaller than Eclipse (in terms of gross tons) which seems right given her design.

Azzam

Another video in HD
Azzam 001.MTS - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ffsLKJHXvg&feature=channel&list=UL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCcXZSAkUv4&feature=channel&list=UL

Project Azzam propulsion system

Looking at the photos of the project Azzam, I left quite surprised. Of course, because of the large circular openings at the transom...lot of questions imposes here and also a good deal of options on the drive we could talk about so, I am going to try to be careful, but, in the end, those will be some conclusions and mostly assumptions. Unfortunately, even when the yacht will be completed, we will not know all the facts because the whole project is shrouded in a veil of secrecy and, I guess, the shipyard will not take out with any information because of confidentiality agreements.

My humble opinion is that those holes are not for exhaust but for mounting flanges of four waterjets. I have seen, in one of the previous posts, link to the picture of MEKO A-200, but that exhaust hole, on its transom, is well above the waterline and the waterjet is down, lower and is immersed (but not entirely!) when the ship is in the water. On project Azzam (I have a very strange feeling that, during the towing to the floating drydock, yacht was lying on some highpressure air cushions or some kind of construction and that it should be more immersed in the water ?!) those holes are partially submerged in the water and it would be necessary to cool the huge amount of hot exhaust gases before they reach the water otherwise you would have enormous evaporation of the water with all side effect, occurrence of cavitation and high thermal stresses and loads of the structure of materials at the site of contact of hot gases and water.

I think, this yacht is CODAG powered, using two turbo diesel engines, each coupled to one external steerable waterjet and two gas turbines, each coupled to one of those two waterjet boosters, in the middle. How will inlet and exhaust of GT´s be solved, it will be, maybe, more visible and understandable, when the yacht is completed. Has this yacht any other refined propellers, coupled to the other diesel engines (so we could talk about CODAG WARP propulsion system) I am not entirely sure. In that case, there is an added drag because of those propellers if you run just on the waterjets...Could be...but, if there are some propellers, they might be driven by electromotors and that means there are several gensets in the engine room. In any case, gensets are necessary for powering bow thrusters´s electromotors and the whole range of the other systems on board. There is a theoretical possibility that those gensets could be powering additional azipods, for some kind of ´silent cruise mode´ (in that case, there are no any refined propellers), but, as I said, there are so many possibilities and this project is so unusual, so I would not be surprised by anything...one thing I am sure, is that this yacht will be having two diesel engines, two gas turbines, four waterjets and that B&W shipyard is involved in this project.

If this propulsion package is provided by MTU, as I think it is, such is the case with most superyachts built in recent years (Eclipse, Dubai, Al Said, Topaz, Yas, Al Salamah, Rising Sun, Serene, Octopus, Katara, Luna, Dilbar, Radiant, Carinthia VII, Palladium...), no metter if they have diesel electric or mechanical or any other propulsion system, we could be talking about two MTU 20V 8000 M91 (9.100 kW) diesel engines and two GE LM2500+G4 (35.320 kW) gas turbines - the fourth generation of LM2500 and, also, several MTU 4000 gensets. Although Daimler and Rolls Royce bought Tognum, a couple months ago (MTU is the part of Tognum) I don´ think any of RR gas turbines (MT30, WR-21..) are in question here. MTU packs propulsion systems with their engines and Vericor (TF series) or GE (LM series) turbines for a years and I am rather sure it is, also, the case here. Personally, I would prefer RR turbines, derived from three spool turbofan engines (RR Trent 800).
Talking about waterjets...Wartsila, based on their axial pump design.

Best regards to Forum members

Mario

P.S. Kraut, maybe those waterjets will be golden, too . Thank You for Your kind, descent and emotional reply about Topaz. I know that You can find out anything about these two yachts, but, please, don´t do anything that could endanger You or Your job. This forum (or anything else) is, certainly, not worth it. We shall find out what type of engines are on Topaz and what type of engines and turbines are on Azzam, in any case.

Hi,

As I have said previously that all or most of the propulsion engineering was bought outright from another yard I have pulled this off B and V's website with what I understand is the powerplant.

Propulsion: 2x 9100 kW (main engines) coupled to steer able Wärtsilä 9000 water jet
2x 32000 kW (gas turbines) coupled to Wärtsilä 9000 water jet
2 x 870 kW (diesel generators)
Manoeuvring System: 1x 500 kW bow thruster

B and V were also pushing this powerplant in a line of 125 m Naval Vessels at one stage, not sure if any of those were ever built or if the plans were sold on to an other country to build.

It was the amount of defense materials particularly submarine plans that B and V have access to which was the stumbling block with the sale to Abu Dhabi Mar.

As to Azzam propulsion system it looks like tremendously enlarged ECO-Katana-Enigma one.
I do not know whether Azzam will be the largest Giga-Yacht but the fact that she will be the fastest among them is obvious.

How does this propulsion system compare to the gas turbine on Ecstasea? I believe that one made the yacht a bit of a nightmare, with much vibration (I seem to remember it was nick-named womit-comit by the crew).

As I have seen these funny things that will be mounted in these openings I know their colour and I am not going any risk at all, when I tell you that there will be nothing golden beneath the waterline.

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I hope Azzam gets used more than Eclipse, which is just docked in Barcelona all year except for 3 or 4 weeks. What an irony: the very few people capable of owning vessels this large are the least capable of enjoying them!

Do you call "all over the place" having visited st. Barts, the south of France, and a few other spots in the Med? I do not. The owners do what they please with their yachts, and I comment what pleases me on the information publicly available (Marine Traffic).