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2005 Cranchi 50 Mediteranee

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  1. johnwi

    johnwi New Member

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    I am considering buying a mint 2005 Cranchi 50 Med. It has 97 hours on the engines and is in amazing condition. I have had the boat surveyed and the findings were minimal.

    Would love any thoughts anyone might have on this vessel compared to others in its class....thanks
  2. vivariva

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    Hi, congratulations on your finding.

    Were the engines replaced?

    97 hours on a 6 year old boat? Let's say 95 (minus 2 hrs idling), that comes to 15.8 hrs a year. So the engine was used for half a day during the entire year? Just curious. The surveyor knows better of course. Cheers,

    Vivariva
  3. johnwi

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    Engines are original...This boat has been owned by a very rich guy who has a few others and just never used it...meanwhile it was being professionally maintained by a captain...

    does anyone have any other thoughts on the Cranchi 50 in general?

    thanks a bunch
  4. NYCAP123

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    Did you have a seperate/detailed engine survey? Motors don't like to sit unused.
  5. super termoli

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    My experience with Cranchis in general is that they are a very good industrial product. They are mass produced and the yard offers very limited possibilities to customize your boat. But if you don't mind the fact that you'll be seeing boats which are exactly like yours and are just looking for no-nonsense cruiser then I think they are a good choice. They are cleverly-designed, very practical, and quite solid. Of course, there are places where you see that it's not exactly a hand-built, upmarket product (teak decks, if you can call it teak, are wafer-thin for instance and don't last very long) but I always had the impression that they don't cut any corners where it really matters meaning that their boats are quite reliable.

    Basically, Cranchis do what it says on the box which is already a lot compared to some other over-hyped and supposedly "upmarket" competitors which make you pay a lot more for nothing. So I respect Cranchis for being an honest product which is not pretending to be something it is not. As such, they are also good value for money in my opnion...

    And the Med 50 is also a good model in my opinion... good volume, nicely laid-out cockpit, good performance. I would just make sure to get one with 715 Volvos instead of 480s which are really borderline with full tanks and gear.
  6. johnwi

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    I have had the engines checked by certified volvo penta dealer...With the exception of a few leaky hoses (which will be replaced) the engines, fuel pumpd etc are in great shape. The engine are the 715hp.

    Also on the Haul out the the bottom appears to have been properly maintained.

    Would appreciate any other thoughts or warnings...

    Thank you guys
  7. CapLady

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    I have done 6 deliveries between New England and south Florida on the Cranchi Atlantique 50. (Flybridge model) Also many deliveries on all Cranchi models within Florida. Once took one from Ft. Lauderdale to Nassau with the seas in the Gulf Stream even with my head while I was on the bridge and the boat took it total stride. Never had had a problem.
    If I was to look for this type of boat for myself I'd get a Cranchi without a second thought.

    As long as the engines check out, I'd go for it.
  8. elsupremo

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    A couple years ago I looked at this boat hard. I think structurally it's pretty tough and the hull can cut through some rougher water than other cruisers, ie sea ray. The boat did not seem designed in a practical manner, however. They squeezed in a bit too much in 50 ft and as a result it's a boat suited for day trips, not much longer. I like to spend a week or so when I go so it was a deal breaker. Up top, deck design is suited to travel, not for lounging on a mooring or at anchor. The table is rather small and the seating around it doesn't offer great visibility. Walkways and deck in general feel cramped because it's dominated by the huge sun pad created by the tender garage. Didnt feel like a nice place to kick back and relax. Downstairs, tender garage causes everything to be pushed forward, reducing the area for accommodations to something similar to a 38 ft boat with no garage. Yet they still put in 3 staterooms and 2 heads. Everything feels very "shoehorned", it is cramped. Salon is small and wont hold many. The refrigerator is very small. Almost no freezer space, no dedicated freezer. Very little storage. Engine room looked particularly cramped.

    To me it seems like a great boat for a couple doing short day trips. If you're just wanting to get somewhere quickly and smoothly, and then get off it, it's a good boat. If you have a family or want to bring friends and you want to spend any significant time on the boat, think of how you will really be using it before you buy it. You might want something with more balance in the design between sportiness and comfort.
  9. NYCAP123

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    Ditto. Going with a third SR is a bad compromise on most 50 foot SC's. It works out OK if you have very small kids, but otherwise you're better off with the 2 SR layout. And a garage on a 50 chews up a lot of useful space.
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    Some of these comments are true but you have to keep in mind that the Med 50 was designed primarily for the European market. Therefore, the large sunpad over the tender garage is a plus, I know that some of US boats like Sea Rays for instance don't even have permanent aft sunpads and use this space for an XL lounge area but this would be a big no-no in Europe.

    Tender garage is also a very popular feature because it unclutters the whole stern section and gives easy access to water. It is also very practical because it gives you a lot of storage space in and around the tender.

    As far as cabins are concerned, it's again one of those "cultural differences". I agree that a 2 SR layout would be much more comfortable and some European manufacturers do offer it as an option on boats of this type and size. But the majority of European buyers will ask for 3 cabins on boats 50' in length and upwards. From 65' up, 90% of clients will be looking for 4 cabins. It makes no sense to me either because they are spending big money for accommodation which feels more like a caravan than a luxury yacht, but it's like that...

    Finally, with regards to her intended use, I don't think this model was really intended for "serious" cruising. I have the impression that a great majority of owners use the Med 50 for day or weekend cruises at most. And this is why it has been designed the way it is... for longer cruises there is the Atlantique flybridge version... As such, elsupremo's assessment is not incorrect but it's not negative either. It's just that this boat was designed to target a specific type of boater and will therefore not appeal to everyone worldwide...
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    Not a bad summation from a director of Brokers.
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    Thank you for all this advice...What other type of boat would you recommend in the same class (or close to it)?

    Thanks a bunch
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    A few years ago my boss was considering the Cranchi. We ended up, happily, with the 50 Viking SC (Princess).