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Survival at Sea...a case for smaller vessels, and sail power

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by brian eiland, Mar 30, 2010.

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  1. brian eiland

    brian eiland Senior Member

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    Just recently this Youtube video was brought to my attention.

    As I watched it several times, along with some related ones dealing with larger ships and rogue waves, it re-emphasized the fact that sometimes you are better off on a smaller vessel in really nasty conditions. Look at how this vessel manages to rise out of harms way instead of 'fighting' with the ocean. Yes it is 'bobbing around, and likely real uncomfortable, but it is surviving.

    And note how that little bit of sail manages to provide just enough forward motion to keep water flowing over the rudder...a necessary element in maintaining at least some steerage-way to 'run' with the sea.

    I've been in two conditions somewhat similar. Once on an ocean trip from the Chesapeake Bay to St Thomas, we had some really big following seas, but they were not as short/steep as these, but certainly taller. Steerage was important though, and a small jib provided that power. And once running into Bimini through the reef, the seas looked like this. We had lost all motor power, but the small head-sail once again gave us enough power to shoot through the reef opening, and make a 90 degree turn to sail up into the anchorage.

    It just makes me want to have some sort of sail (or wind) power onboard whenever I venture into the ocean for an extended trip. It's usually the old wind that roughs things up, so better to be able to make some use of it.
  2. NYCAP123

    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    That sail could easily cause a pitch pole if not for that nice hunk of lead hanging below.
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    Marmot Senior Member

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    Speaking as one who has been in "really nasty" conditions in small boats and large, give me the biggest d**n thing afloat thank you very much.
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    NYCAP123 Senior Member

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    Ditto. Size does matter.
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    Alex, I'll take "Option C" for $800.
    What is on the hard?

    We've been in some nasty stuff, but I don't think it was near that bad.
    However if I had to choose, it would likely be a slightly larger boat than that.
  6. brian eiland

    brian eiland Senior Member

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    The vessel in that video is one of the European 12 meter class boats, in particular Anita. She's about 63 feet overall, so a bit bigger that she looks in the video.

    This big boy (tour ship Voyager) is approaching an out-of-control situation, and should she lose all power, I'm not so sure I would rather be aboard her than that yawl above. And particularly were I short-handed with crew. I could be in control with only two persons (possibly one) in that smaller vessel.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeHoo3OoD9o

    Then I give you this example. This vessel is in MUCH less of a sea than the yawl above. Can you imagine her in a similar sea?

    You don't see many all-power yachts venturing into the southern ocean.

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  7. BMS

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    Pretty wicked!! I have had to let out about a 100' of tow line before to keep my engines in the water. It acts like a drouge if you don't have one.