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Losing GPS Signal

Discussion in 'Electronics' started by DOCKMASTER, Nov 25, 2025 at 8:13 PM.

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  1. DOCKMASTER

    DOCKMASTER Senior Member

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    My boat was just delivered via transport ship to Mexico. All systems were powered down and batteries disconnected for the 11 days it was aboard the ship. Just about everything came back to life well. Except my SIMRAD electronics suite keeps losing GPS signal. It finds a signal and connects to satellites just fine. But after 15-20 mins it loses GPS. I rebooted the system 3 times with same issue. My GPS antenna is inside a dome and well protected. Obviously I will check connections and such but it’s weird that this just started happening today. There is no sign of impact damage to the dome that houses the antenna and nobody was aboard while it was being transported. Any other suggestions on what to look for? I need to make my final 115 mile run Thursday to the new home and would really like to have a fully functioning plotter as I’m in unfamiliar waters. Yes, I have my iPad with Aquamap app and all charts loaded for this area for back-up if needed. But sure would prefer to have my SIMRAD monitors showing me where I am.
  2. Capt Ralph

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    There are tables and lots of built in thingies that we will never understand.

    Turn it on and leave it on for a day or two.
    If the latest tables do not down load, you may need a software update.
    These updates usually come thru the Simrad MFD when it is connected to the web. All needs to be powered on for a while for this also.
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    Are you sure it's "just" an antenna?
    I mean, old plotters used to rely on a passive antenna, typically connected with a coaxial cable, but the GPS "intelligence" was inside the plotter itself.
    But nowadays, most of what we are used to call GPS antennas are actually self-contained GPS units, that directly transmit the converted signal to the plotter via NMEA cables.
    If as I would guess you've got the latter, in the worst case you can simply buy another one and swap it. No need to find an identical one, any of them should work.
    And they are reasonably cheap, these days...
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  4. rtrafford

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    The GPS signal loss could also be a function of some other data stream corruption. My Ray system GPS antenna has an indicator light on it, and glowing red tells me that the antenna is locked up, requiring a reset. If I have such an error and the light it green, the problem is in the backbone. Another means of hunting down the issue is to fully isolate your entire network of gear with power only to the backbone and plotter, all other gear off. If no error occurs the conflict is in the backbone brought by another device. If the error still occurs, the issue is most likely within the GPS antenna.

    My system when fully up and running (lots of gadgets) throws a GPS error when I power up one of my VHF radios. The error clears, but it flashes as the VHF is coming online. Much data leads to sensitive chains subject to glitches.
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    Your concept makes sense and the input is appreciated. However, in my situation, I have no new equipment or potential sources of interference unless it is external to the boat. It is all the same stuff I’ve always had so can’t imagine something changed.

    Mapism post got me thinking though. With the system completely powered down and batteries disconnected, it may have selected a different antenna when I powered it back up. I need to go into my settings and see what antenna it is using. My newer 16” Evo 3 I put in the cockpit has an internal antenna. It may be using that one which doesn’t work very well given the mounting location of the unit. The 16” is also the master unit since it is newer and has a much faster processor than my 12” evo 1 screens on the bridge.
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    even though nothing changed, that doesn’t mean something didn’t change, so to speak. The concept was to isolate the GPS and test it in a bubble. Eliminate all other variables. I’ve had random issues that were later identified as a bad cable or a bad network switch. Once it happened as I left the yard and after batteries had been off for two weeks.
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    Valid point, thank you. I just did some checking and it was using the internal antenna on the 16”. I just switched it over to my antenna up on the hard top. It picked up way more satellites as soon as I did that. I’ll keep it on for a few hours here at the slip and see what happens
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    Very good catch, I hope. Chasing these gremlins can be a PITA.
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    My terminology of "antenna" may of just been short. Most of the time the antenna is the active all-in-one assembly including the processor.
    Even if it is just a bump on top of a Simrad display.

    I still have a back-up RayNav 310 that uses a passive antenna (1" square etch at the end of a coax).

    Still, the processor (wherever it is) receives tables, telemetry, clock cycles and more to help it time itself with the best satellites and calculate your location.
    After such a quick change in location, different satellites are in use and all this new data must be loaded before a reliable operation can begin.
    And you need continuous view of a few satellites to load this info that may take several minutes to a day.


    I recall the EVO3 has a built in wifi also. If no internet around you, set your cell phone up as a hot spot and let your Simrad connect to it.
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    Interesting. Do you mean that you have 2 GPS mushrooms, both sending a separate GPS signal on the same N2K network, and you can select either one or the other independently from each plotter?
    I would have thought that such configuration can't even work, due to two different GPS sentences conflicting on the same network.
    Or maybe it's a Simrad-specific feature?
    Just curious.