Sunseeker or San Lorenzo

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I can't compare the two boats you asked about as they're completely different boats and I can't imagine one narrowing their choices down to these two. One is 10 years old, one practically new. One is designed for long range cruising with fuel to support it and has a top speed of 17 knots, the other, while decent for long range, is designed for med boating and performance with larger engines and a max speed of 26 knots. That's also why MTU engines as MAN and CAT don't offer that large. There's a substantial difference in the size of the two boats as well. One is classed and I doubt the other is. One has a flybridge, the other is enclosed. None of us can possibly tell you which one fits you best or which you should like most. Our reason for preferring one to the other may not fit you at all. For instance, the Sanlorenzo is too slow for my desires. Most people run at 12 knots and couldn't care less.

A couple of things I'd encourage you to be sure you're considering. Cost of shipping back and forth is one. Increase in crew as either would require a minimum of 5 and I'd go with more. Crew accommodation. Will you need to use one of your guest cabins for crew? Also, a captain who knows engineering is no longer enough. I'm not even sure what "knows engineering" means.

You need to back up and redefine your requirements and then compare boats to those requirements. The only requirements it appears you've defined so far is must accommodate 12.

As to Capt J's Westport recommendation, I'm prejudiced and agree, but either of the two boats you've mentioned could be nice for the right person.

I would be curious what your captain's opinion is. I would imagine he is pretty familiar with your usage.

What is your captain's license?

I ask only since you mentioned crossing on the boats on bottom and I was wondering if he's licensed so he could do so.

I would have to go with Sunseeker as well on this one. While I've ran both makes, I personally prefer the Sunseeker more, but ultimately am with Capt J, YachtForums Admin, and Capt. Ralph and go for a Westport 112. Given your sleeping / GR arrangement dilemma though, have you thought outside the box and looked at a Trinity or Burger, while they will be older you had mentioned the San Lorenzo had her 10 year survey completed? Also, have you thought about the planning / expense of sending the boat across on her own bottom and putting the crew up to that task vs. putting it on a ship? Certainly not doubting the ability of your Captain and Crew, but just thinking of the logistics and underway time across, plus the trip planning and additional hours on the machinery.

I assume with STCW Endorsement since he already captains for you in Europe.

There's a Burger currently on the market in that size class that's been absolutely babied. Top of my head it was around 120 feet, down in South Florida. Was discussing it last week with a friend who just purchased a similar sized Burger, slightly smaller (maybe 106 feet?), and this one was on their radar.

There are several Burgers for sale. One is 113', Life Of Reilley, which I believe is the former Top Times. If so, it was originally highlighted here and we chartered it once for a week. Too slow for us, but incredible boat.

Also, the 120' and a 101' for sale.

It might be smaller than you would like but the 100’ Hatteras Lady Carmen is for sale and she has a 6 stateroom layout.

Hello I will only help you compare the two boats you mentioned as it might get even more confusing with most posters giving you third/forth options. I think your number one decision before deciding on these two boats is to decide if you would like a planning hull or a semi displacement hull. Can you live without the speed, and you are OK with taking longer time to reach your destinations? After deciding that I think we can focus on the boats, i’ve spent time on the specific type of San Lorenzo and I can tell you that I have not spent specific time on the Sunseeker model you mentioned but have been around and on enough sunseeker‘s to have an idea about them. Reading about how your kids are getting bigger and your need of space I would definitely go with the San Lorenzo, there’s a lot of space and well taken care of boat will last a long time with you taking good care of it as well. I do not find the build quality of Sunseeker’s equal to San Lorenzo’ and especially the seaworthiness is much better on San Lorenzo in my opinion. Regardless of your decision I think those two boats are great boats and you will have a great time with them I would urge other posters to stick to comparing the two as opposed to giving you other options good luck

To bring another perspective to the interesting and relevant comments above, the Sunseeker offers more separate outdoor spaces while faster; the SanLorenzo more interior, more classic layout, and slower...
I experienced bigger and more recent models of each brand as technical manager so I cannot comment precisely those spec. Rina is convenient and cheaper (by the way, whatever class, sign off BFA with class, saving you 10 to 15% of the 5 year surveys cycle). If the Sanlorenzo was well maintained for 10 years and classed, then, it might be the deal especially if you know you will maintain her well too. Sunseeker's exterior (paint and grp) suffered but very often operating on heavy duty condition. Engine room arrangement is important and Sunseeker was a good surprise, and very appreciated the after-sales support and the technical documentation. Especially for loading transport preparation.

Someone saying a Sunseeker is better then a Sanlorenzo does not really know what he is saying.

Sanlorenzo is a step above in the details of the finishing to a Sunseeker. Sanlorenzo has been always semi-custom/custom builder since the brand was born and is also a heavier build to a Sunseeker.
Sanlorenzo are much easier to class in A1, Sunseeker is nearly ready for MCA but if you ask for A1 build it is not easy.

An SD Sanlorenzo is also much better to any Sunseeker in planning hull if you want to do average distance. I would say Sunseeker quality is the same as the big Azimut's build in Viareggio.

Didn’t wanna be as harsh as you were, but I agree with your statements I wouldn’t put the 2 builders in the same league.