Click for Cross Click for Delta Click for Furuno Click for Burger Click for Mulder

ZF350A Transmission

Discussion in 'Technical Discussion' started by CSkipR, Sep 30, 2014.

You need to be registered and signed in to view this content.
  1. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,741
    Location:
    Satsuma, FL
    Hence, where I see them on the lower shelves. I'm still not calling them bad.
  2. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,435
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    Why not just use the ZF filter??? It's $16,000 to rebuild one of those gears, start to finish. Just the oil pump alone in that gear is close to $4,000 installed. Is it really worth $40 s in savings, honestly???
  3. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,741
    Location:
    Satsuma, FL
    When in doubt or protect your investment; Skippy J has a good point. For hits & giggles, Take note of what comes out of the ZF box. As I stated a few back, I opened my TD box and there was a Baldwin filter.
  4. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,435
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    It's just a very overpriced white filter with a ZF logo and the part number.......no other markings.
  5. CSkipR

    CSkipR Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    965
    Location:
    New Smyrna Beach, Fl
    That's it just a white overpriced filter.
  6. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,435
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    That's true, but put a filter that doesn't do it's job, or one that explodes or leaks and you will have a very overpriced rebuild at $16,000. I think I'd rather pay for the overpriced filter and have piece of mind. Look up Kafue's thread on his gear rebuild and look at how much hassle, money, time lost, and 2 rebuilds later, over having the wrong filter in his gear, which was installed by the rebuilder by accident........
  7. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    Messages:
    7,396
    Location:
    My Office
    That was the wrong type of filter not the wrong brand, there is quite a difference.
  8. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,435
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    True, but if a fram is as good as the automotive ones, you might as well have the wrong type of filter in there. The fram cases are very weak and crush easy, the bypass valve gets stuck on them, it is definately an economy filter I wouldn't want installed on anything of mine.
  9. CSkipR

    CSkipR Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    965
    Location:
    New Smyrna Beach, Fl
    Will the transmissions heat up enough just idling at the dock or do I need to run boat before changing trans oil.
  10. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,741
    Location:
    Satsuma, FL
    Skip
    I think you use a separate oil cooler for your clutch. If so, warming up the oil will take a long time (if ever) at the dock.
    However, The synthetic oil you have in there now will flow the same warm or cold. The important thought is to ensure any sediments is suspended in the oil and not on the case bottom. Running and clutching a few times dock side and drawing from the bottom, should work fine for you.
  11. CSkipR

    CSkipR Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    965
    Location:
    New Smyrna Beach, Fl
    Thanks RC that's just what I needed to know.
  12. CSkipR

    CSkipR Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2008
    Messages:
    965
    Location:
    New Smyrna Beach, Fl
    Okay heres the latest update. I bought the ZF filters and kept the Fram for backup. Replaced the Mobil 1 Delvac 5-40w in the transmission with Shell Rotella T1 40w. Decided to send oil samples in to Blackstone to see results from Mobil Delvac oil with approx 400 hrs. Both samples came back very similar with no issues. Oil viscosity was at 53%.
  13. Capt J

    Capt J Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Messages:
    14,435
    Location:
    Fort Lauderdale
    What were sodium and iron levels?
  14. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,741
    Location:
    Satsuma, FL
    Skip
    Does you MAN displays show gear pressure or temp data? Interested to know if any conditions have changed with the new oil.
  15. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,741
    Location:
    Satsuma, FL
    Did the ZF filters have any OEM labels or part numbers?
  16. K1W1

    K1W1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    Messages:
    7,396
    Location:
    My Office
    I am curious as to why the viscosity dropped by nearly half after 400 hrs.
  17. Marmot

    Marmot Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2007
    Messages:
    3,311
    Location:
    9114 S. Central Ave
    Old post but just read the thread and couldn't help but to comment.

    What color does unburnt fuel add to a diesel engine's lube oil?

    What color is a diesel engine's lube oil after running long enough to acquire a measurable percentage of fuel dilution?

    What color is diesel engine lube oil after running for 2 or 3 hours?

    What makes diesel engine lube oil that color?

    I am also curious how the viscosity dropped so much ... was a sample of the new, unused, oil submitted at the same time for comparison? VI shear? Wrong type oil?
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2014
  18. captholli

    captholli Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,164
    Location:
    In The Bilge
    carbon was on his mind but got lost in translation
  19. Capt Ralph

    Capt Ralph Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,741
    Location:
    Satsuma, FL
    L0003 translation buffer error?
  20. Marmot

    Marmot Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2007
    Messages:
    3,311
    Location:
    9114 S. Central Ave
    Could be. Source seems to have a very high miss rate ... ;)