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  1. Matt46post

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    Hi
    Does anybody now anything about "Vega Marine yachts " they built some pilot house and trawler style boats back in the 1980s, they were built in Southern California,there is a couple of them forsale, it seems somebody added 15' to a 60' pilot house ,seems abit much ? and I would assume they didn't lengthen the running gear,because it appears they added a keel a few years later lol
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    I have met the owner over the years, Udo Vogel, a very passionate naval architect / boat builder who loved his craft. He lived in Torrance and they built about 99 boats, mostly commercial fisherman with some yachts in the mix. A true German work ethic with the attention to detail to match. He worked for Rados Marine Engineering in San Pedro before building a Luders sailboat in his "spare" time and then built his company. The local crew was quite talented and went on to build larger local yachts like the famous "Crystal". His 42' commercial swordfish stickboats were all over SoCal. I doubt he had anything to do with the extension, was the vessel the Sodar (Rados in reverse) or Picante?
    His son is a highly talented metal fabricator going from aluminum fuel tanks to towers to stainless steel art work out of his shop in Signal Hill and is now marketing a corrosion free stainless steel fastener product called Foreverbolt.
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    Thank you for the info, the 75'...60' pilot house with the 15' I s called " American Dream" its in Huntington Beach ,and the 60' cruiser is in San Diego , they look like they are a lot of boat for the money,most likely the extension was done by someone other than the builder it was done years later, maybe if I could get the broker who has it listed to return a phone call or email ,maybe I might have a little more info ,lol..
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    The 75' is the stretched Sodar and the 60 is the original Picante which was home ported out of Dana Point for many years. The Sodar was an attempt to get into the void that was expected as Elliot was retiring to Oregon on the sale of his yard in Santa Monica. Vega Marine did not have the necessary capital maintain this larger yacht building segment and did not survive financially.

    Some other West Coast built options in Pilothouse style are:

    60' Jones Goodell Pilothouse - http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197...9/Newport-Beach/CA/United-States#.WZrRDXKWyUk

    72' Elliot Pilothouse - http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...39541/San-Diego/CA/United-States#.WZrRfHKWyUk

    These all have good "bones", condition mainly depends on how they have been maintained and up-dated.
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    Hard not to like that 60 Jones Goodell...clean lines. Looks like it has had a good life.
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    Met one of its owner years ago when it was named "Art's Toy", he cruised up and down the Pacific Coast and absolutely loved the boat, said he never had as good a night's sleep as when he was underway onboard, praised it's sea keeping abilities.
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    Thanks for the info on these boats, I believe they are cold molded? Glass over wood construction?i have never extended a boat , adding 15' and not extending the running doesn't present problems?I guess the previous owners says it handles well
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    The American Dream (ex Sodar) Hull and Deck were cold molded (Glass over Plywood) I believe. Have no idea how it handles with a 15' extension without extending the running gear, the rule of thumb I have seen in the past is usually more like up to 10% Extension of Hull Length, after that you go into redoing the Running Gear. 15' is 25% of the original 60 foot design, would have to investigate this thoroughly.
    The Baci Salati (ex Picante) Hull was built out of Fiberglass from a mold, not sure if the deck and bridge were from a mold as well.
    The 60' Jones Goodell has a Fiberglass Hull and Aluminum Deck/Topsides. She is a great sea boat with a lot of proven miles on her, well known in most West Coast ports.
    The 72' Elliott is cold molded all-around (Glass over Plywood). I saw a sistership in Newport Harbor Shipyard that was going through a refit/extension around the year 2000 and was amazed when they cut the laminated glass covered plywood stringers. There were in great shape , looked absolutely new, dry as a bone and was a testimony to the materials/construction techniques used by Elliott.
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    I saw saw that boat at Newport shipyard also , I was having a 60' riva painted and refit, it was cool watching that extension and refit on that Elliott , I never saw completed, it looked like it was going to be a nice boat
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    Small world, here is a pic, she is chartering out of Cabo San Lucas:

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    Ask Jesse at NHS what he thinks about a 15' stretch on a 60' hull without moving the running gear.
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    A solid glass hull with an Aluminum topside sounds like a good combination...great idea. No coring problems to deal with or hull corrosion below the waterline. Seems that combo would be used more often on boats that are not built for high speed cruise.
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    She came into the yard as Gladiator and left as Alure. Owner took her down to bare bones before being hauled out. Nice refit although I never understood why they converted the enclosed helm into a movie theatre. Didn't know she was being chartered; I was under the impression that the family that bought her wanted to keep her private.
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    What you should be building next ;)
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    My riva " Bravissimo "was there for a little over a year and I watched them rebuilding her, I always wondered if adding so much length with the small beam that boat had how it was going to handle ? I watched them build a nice tender from scratch for a 164' delta ? Westport? Jessie does nice work, about half way thru my refit the yard was being acquired by Bellport shipyards ? Do they still own it or did Jessie buy it back?
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    My old man built a building in Costa Mesa with a big 70' long bay in it with the sole intention of building a boat like that. Its a dream but maybe one day I will make it a reality.
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    Does anybody know the owner of the 75' vega marine that is listed on yachtworld " American dream" the broker who has it listed is doesn't return phone calls or emails .... please inbox

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