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  1. randy101

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    Country Kitchen?

    No more galleys on boats and ships?
    Or at least a Nautical Kitchen rather than a Country Kitchen :(
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    That term has found itself attached to certain Broward listings for whatever reasons ...it denotes a larger than usual galley that includes a family style eating area such as a large booth or farmhouse type kitchen table arraignment and usually an island. Room for the whole family type of deal. That's your country kitchen.
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    Learning every day, thx.
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    No, the term described a larger than actual galley yes. But the term meant a larger than actual galley that also included the crew dinette and was a split between the crew quarters and guest area of the boat......meaning the crew and guests could meet in the galley and eat there.....
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    Frank Dennison's wife Gertrude is credited with this term "Country Kitchen" through her yacht interior design business for Broward marine starting in the early to mid eighties and J is correct as it was the American plan of general arraignments where owners and crew could co-mingle something that European owners wouldn't dream of at the time. It had its pros and cons for both parties.
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    Actually "Country Kitchen" originated in homes long before Gertrude or others. She may have been the first to apply the term to boats. It's a design layout where the eating area is in the kitchen, not separate. In a home, it brings the dining and the food preparation together, allowing interaction. On a boat with a crew preparing a meal then it would allow interaction between crew and owners/guests.

    The term brings memories of large country families where the kitchen was the center of activity and everyone gathered there.

    It is by nature a more casual layout. It is more an American concept initially. Another aspect is galley up vs down. This became prevalent in American boats and requested by American buyers of European boats. However, builders were surprised when some European purchasers then also wanted the galley up.
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    I'll disagree on your definition and have to side with RER.
    We saw these early on in the West Coast, usually in the early Raised Pilothouse designs at Westport or Christensen. Had nothing to do with including crew for meals, but was more of an eat in kithchen for less formal meals, or even when formal dining rooms were not designed in.
    The best one I saw was the Northcoast yacht Countach, done for a chef. Nordlund had done few and still does them as well.
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    There were no crew mess facilities located in the crews quarters in most Broward's in the 80's and 90's @ 100ft and under and the boats all had formal dinning salons adjacent to the main salon . These country kitchens were used by both the crew and guests but maybe not at the same time always. Broward was building more linier ft. of vessels in the mid to late eighties between the Saugatuck and Ft. Lauderdale facilities than any other builder in the world at that time and the empirical data will back that statement . If Dave Christensen or the Rust brothers built a few "Country kitchens" in their vessels out in Vancouver & Westport WA. than they were providing Broward with the sincerest form of flattery by copying the design.
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    Gertrude Dennison through her company "Yacht Interiors Inc." has been given credit through multiple media articles and yacht interior archives for bringing this term & design of the country kitchen to the yachting world through her designs. She was the first to incorporate this into a yacht interior to rave reviews from Broward's American clientele.
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    So give me year when she started the Country Kitchen craze, I am not so sure I buy into the East Coast media bias without some dates. And don't forget Burger was too steps ahead of Broward when it came to RPH yachts.

    Yachting out West has always tended to be more casual than out East, with more true owner/operators and less separation between crew/staff and family.
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    I didn't dispute that, but it was in the housing world long before. I have no idea about the boating world introduction.
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    I'm going to say 1983-84 with Connaught, Mystique, Shona Boy build time frame. I agree that West Coast yachting designs tend to be more laid back "for sure" to incorporate crew in common areas of the vessel like the big table in the pilot house that the west coast boats always had. The example of the country kitchen that you mentioned with Countache as being one of the best from North Coast, Contache splashed in 1993 & is a good looking boat as I traveled down the west coast from Alaska when Countache was being delivered for FLIBS from North Coast that year.
    I've always enjoyed those glass "Aquarium's " that west coast boats have on their aft deck or cockpit. You even have lights in your aquariums to illuminate the bait. West coast , east coast deal Ill forfeit any claim & let ya'll have the lock on the outdoor aft aquariums in lieu of a simple bait well
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    Let's see how far back we can go for this country kitchen thing, I'll start with the 1988 Westport 98' RPH M/Y "Golden Delicious", now "Destiny".

    I was off on Countach, got it confused with La Corniche, which had a true chef's kitchen design by the talented Bainbridge Islander Tom Henderson, no country kitchen though.
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    I think that your correct. La Corniche was launched in 1993 and she traveled down with us & not Countach . I also confused the two names. When was Countach launched by North Coast? I believe Countach was the next vessel launched and she was built on spec without an owner if my failing memory serves me.
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    Countach was launched in 1995, had big power DD 16V-149's, I think it had an owner with a fast cruise requirement from the beginning.

    Found a 1982 Burger 86' RPH Motoryacht "Serendipty" with the country kitchen design, anything earlier?
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    So it sounds like I'll have crow feathers hanging out of my mouth tonight. I'm mistaken again! Darn , two for two so far! Did you really find one in '82? And on a Burger of all things! excellent find! I'll have to see if Serendipity has a digital footprint on line and take a look. . I wonder who her "Inferior Desecrator" was? I don't have a clue on who was the go to designer that Henry & Co. used for the interiors of that era Burger other than owner specified and to that end, I don't know if Burger ever built boats on spec with out an owner for the build.? Broward certainly did and to their credit did it well for the time period.
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    It is on yachtworld with drawings as well. I am on my iPad and suck on going back and forth otherwise I would share the link, probably have to ask one of the kids, LOL.
    I am sure Broward and Gertrude and Denison were a big impact on popularizing the country kitchen.
    The CK is a normal progression of the RPH motoryacht, it got rid of the tight galley kitchen with the dining space forward of the galley bulkhead and opened it up into a better use of space.
    Naval Architects like Jack Hargrave (Burger), Ed Monk, Jack Sarin and William Garden had made the natural progression before the name designers became more prominent. You can probably throw in S&S too. I am sure there are earlier vessels as well.

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