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Mounting a Boston Whaler on the foredeck / bow

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  1. hughdunlop

    hughdunlop Member

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    I have a 1993 46 and would like to put a 9 " Boston Whaler tender on the bow. The boat seems very heavy , I do not believe it is saturated , just heavy by its nature. I wonder what is the limit for mounting a boat there and is there anything I should know about mounting the cradle for it...Thanks..

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  2. RER

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    The 9' Whaler with motor, tank and rigging should weigh less than 300lbs which the foredeck can handle. Boat only should weigh less than 200lbs. Make sure you seal the crap out of anywhere you drill into the foredeck. Nice photo.
  3. Capt J

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    An old 13' whaler with just two bench seats (setup for a tiller engine) is light enough that 2 guys can pick it up and carry, at least my friends from the 60's with the straight across transom.

    The 9' weighs 165lbs. Here is a website with all the specs for all of the classic whalers.
    http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/specifications.html

    Tank and motor can both be removed if you'd like to and weight depends on which ones you go with.
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    See how the boat rides with the extra weigh before you do the final drilling & fastening? Will you be installing a heavy davit also?
  5. hughdunlop

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    Guess it will not be happening now. Had the Whaler shipper down from a guy in Ontario , said it was in great shape and dry , thought it was quite heavy when it arrived , about 80 % of the bottom rotten.... :( Saturated and you can poke holes in it with a screwdriver.....Live and learn..
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    Mounting a 11ft dinghy like this, is much easier in my opinion!

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  7. RT46

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    Hughdunlop,

    how about, using the hull of the whaler to make a plug for an untra light carbon fiber version
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    That would have been a great idea , time consuming but a good idea..... I may look at a very small RIB...Will have a look at the Halifax Boat show this weekend....
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    Why not just find a new(ish)9' whaler or 11'?
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    We had a 9' Rib with a Brower Davit on our old 46 Post. The davit was secure to a standpipe in the closet of the stbd stateroom. Never had any issues with it. It sat on 2 x SS Rails just high enough to clear the deck. Used good ss ratchet type straps for hold downs. I would personally prefer a RIB unless you have some sharp rocks to deal with all the time, as they have better characteristics than the small 9' whaler. Less sensitive to weight distribution, softer ride, won't gouge the hull when secured alongside on anchor.
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    yup, agree, its hard to beat the stability and safety of a RIB.

    I had a 13 whaler (actually several), as I remember they were very stable, you could stand on the gunnel.
    My last one absorbed so much water it was almost too heavy for 4 guys to get on a landscaping trailer!
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    Was it cracked some where or the transom separated ? Where'd all the water come from ?
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    I'm not really sure, I think it came from the floor because the floor was cracked and crazed in a bunch of spots.

    Ive had three 13 Whalers.
    All of them were from the late 60s as far as I could tell.

    All were former pleasure boats that I abused and used commercially 12 months a year.
    In the winter they often saw service as ice breakers.

    They would all easily break 1 inch ice or ride up on the ice and break it with its weight.
    when the ice was too thick to break the whaler would ride up on the ice sheet.

    when I got them, all three had cracked transoms that I easily repaired with some epoxy and biaxial glass.

    these boats were also very stable and capable of carrying a lot of weight.
    I remember one time loading one with plywood, lumber, a generator and power tools to build a duck blind.

    Funny thing, I got all three Whalers for free.
    When I was done with them I passed them along to the next owners for free. (without the cracked transoms)
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    I like the 13 whaler too, it is a great all-purpose boat. The 9' whaler does not quite have the same attributes, but is ok for 2 people in real practicality.
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    I had an 11 with a 25 hp on the back was a great boat , the 9 is simply a shorter version of the 11.... I had grand ideas of a well built boat as a tender for another great boat , where I am they are almost impossible to find. I will look into a RIB....My idea is to erect the stand pipe and build a simple 3 or 4 piece removable davit which I will store somewhere below deck when not being used. Cost effective and will keep the foc'sle less cluttered
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    If you're going RIB with a tiller outboard, you don't even need a davit if you're willing to remove the engine and fuel tank, they're easy enough to lift onto the deck with 2 guys and just lash them right to the deck upside down......or get one with a folding floor and deflate and stow it in the cockpit. I don't think the RIB's last as long in really cold area's as the glue tends to unglue itself.
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    Its up in the air now , was really taken back by the Whaler deal gone bad. Would have looked great refinished and on the foc'sle though....
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    Another thought if you go the inflatable route and removing the motor/gas tank. You could put a re-inforced eye on the brow and use a block and tackle to lift it up there to save the weight of a davit on the bow.
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    I am set up like Capt J recommends.
    My 46 Post has no davit and I have an inflatable floor zodiac up front on a lightweight aluminum cradle.

    I remove the outboard and fuel tank from the inflatable.
    I am able to pull the inflatable up on the bow myself, but usually have help.

    with this set up, I estimate boat and cradle is around 100 pounds.

    I don't have the lifting eye, but that's a great suggestion.
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    Hugh

    If I had a choice, I would rather go with a light inflatable with a removable tiller steered outboard. It's a much sinpler setup without the winch ( which is a another item to maintain ). Also that way it is easy to store the rib at home and keep the bow looking clean when not using it for a trip. If you do want want to keep the rib on the bow, a simple cradle will be good and that way you could Store spare fenders in the rib.