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So you pay a few million for a boat you can't board?

Discussion in 'General Yachting Discussion' started by Pascal, Apr 1, 2013.

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  1. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    I don't know what a 70' Mutt goes for these days... $4M "nicely equipped"?

    So you write that nice check, then have to go to Home Depot and get those sticky gritty non skid pads so you can get on the boat because the designers never realize you may need to step on at the swim platform?

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  2. Navatech

    Navatech New Member

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    Or not...

    Possibly the builder envisioned that if the boat wasn't moored stern to the dock (as is common in the Med) it would be boarded by way of a gangway?!...

    I really can't see classy females with dainty high heeled shoes boarding the way those anti-slip patches would allow...
  3. Capt J

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    Is this the official pick on yacht builder design months for Pascal? hehehe
  4. Pascal

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    It s about time somebody does, isn't it?

    How many times have you gotten on a boat and just shaken your head wondering how someone could have designed that flaw? Or open a glossy magazine where the writer praises the drink holders, flat screens and other cool feature but not mentioning that you can't get to the batteries or pump.

    It drives me nuts! And unfortunately things are getting worst. 5 years ago the only boats you d see without rub rail were French catamarans

    Now it seems most Seekers, mutts, ferretis, fairlines, etc can only be boarded by fit people wearing appropriate footwear. No more heels and tight short dresses on yachts ? That s terrible ! :)
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    Where there's a will there's a way

    Years ago a guy in Lauderdale wanted to propose to his girl. So he chartered my boat to take them up to Yesterdays. She showed up at the dock in a skin tight mini and 5" heels. Low tide, 5 steps down the ladder. I carried her down.
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    and the two of you have been happily married ever since? :D
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    If he didn't have that big rock (and me a wife) that night might have ended differently than he expected.:D I think I definitely helped put her in the mood to say yes though. She had a good night all around, and mine wasn't bad either.;) But her face when she saw that ladder.:eek:
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    The only thing better than watching them fall in is after you fish them out.;):D
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    I think that this is a trend that is driven by the buyers. The cost of installing a gangway on the side of the boat is next to nothing when you take the full price of the vessel into account, so it's a matter of style preference. Buyers prefer the clean look so they buy it. Later on some probably come to regret their decisions, but not all. Some boats are just difficult to get onto, stow a step ladder in the laz and put it out when you dock along side. In Kodiak there are plenty of small wooden staircases to be found alongside the slips of more cumbersome boats.
  10. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    Half the people we get on board the 70' I run (whether owners guests or charter guests) will not be happy climbing a ladder.

    Most Italian boats have a side door and marquipt stairs but many including new fairlines, seekers etc dont even have a cutout on the side.
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    Just yesterday I was trying to get on and even worse trying to get off a 55 Searay Sundancer that was bow in at the dock so it is a pretty universal problem not just limited to the overseas boats. :cool:
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    None of the newish Italian boats have side doors anymore either....not the Azimuts.....not the Feretti's..... Add Neptunus to the list also (Canadian).....
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    Couple of years ago we were docked next to a brand new 60 something sunseeker predator. New boat, proud owner, had friends coming to look at the boat etc Standard Florida slip with pilings and a finger pier. Problem is that the boat was all curves and there was nothing to step on within normal reach of the finger. It was very entertaining to watch

    But the best part was the sunpad at the stern... It was BLACK! I m sure that works well in the UK where you need to magnify the effect of every errand ray of sunshine, but in Florida??
  14. AMG

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    Remember that many boat builders and even more boat designers have little or no experience of using boats...
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    And the same goes for many boat buyers... :p
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    Remember where these boats are built. Most marinas in Europe are stern to, or floating docks.

    European builders will build for their target clientele. If you look at US built boats they cater for the US market with side boarding.
  17. Pascal

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    Well, have you seen how many mutts and seekers are sold on this side of the pond? I walked by 6 or 7 of them just walking to the boat a few minutes ago!

    We re now taking major modifications here...
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    Yeah, I've noticed an increasing number of "auto designers" coming into the industry. Plus, I get a few CV's during the week from Designers (In/Ex) and new Nav Archs, I find it amazing how low there "on water" experience is, and that's if listed. As for the builders, it's the type of builder - talk to your custom boys in the S/F sector, they know every inch of the boat - what does and doesn't work.
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    Back to the boat in question, why wouldn't the owner simply have someone fabricate curved teak step pads that mirror the platform? They'd look ok, much better than the home depot stickys:eek:
  20. Pascal

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    Here is another case, this is an older boat, guessing 2000/2002

    Note how with a narrow finger there no way to use the marquipt but the tapered platform makes it hard to step on it

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