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  1. Maxwell, Mar 13, 2015
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    Maxwell

    Maxwell Senior Member

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    Good morning,

    We have an accepted offer on a 2003 Tiara 42 Open with Cat C12 power with 650hrs. Apparently the owner travels a lot and hasn't been able to use the boat. He did not put it in the water last summer and it has been in indoor heated storage for over a year. Aside from fuel sitting, impellers and batteries etc, is there anything else that I should pay special attention to given the extended layup? I am heading to see the boat for the first time tomorrow and the survey is set for next week.

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    max
  2. olderboater, Mar 13, 2015
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    Survey survey. That means a survey of the boat but also a specific survey of the engines. Now, given the circumstances the engine survey might be difficult and I'd require the owner to at least do what is necessary to make that possible. Hopefully your offer included that requirement. But I would not accept, "It was fine when we last used it and just get batteries and change impellers and clean the fuel and all will be perfect." I'd have to know.

    The low hours are disturbing. That is 50 hours a year. But is it 50 a year or 200 for 3 years and 50 for the other 9 combined.

    It's really like any other boat, just needs the two surveys and one of them may require some expenditure before it can be done. And I should point out, to me any survey includes being put in the water and a sea trial. I know in your area that may well require de-winterizing and re-winterizing although perhaps not since it's in heated indoor storage.
  3. Maxwell, Mar 13, 2015
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    Thanks older boater... I agree. The purchase is pending complete survey and sea trial. The first part of the survey will be done out of the water (still ice on the lakes) which will inspect hull etc (I'm also bringing an IR camera tomorrow). The second part will be after the boat is splashed and will include a Cat tech as well as the original surveyor to inspect all systems once we're afloat.
  4. Perlmudder, Mar 13, 2015
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    I would not be that concerned based on 50 hours a season. I hate to say it, but with work and life, if my boat sees 50 hours a season that is pretty good. 100 hours is a amazing season. If the boat is in the north on the great lakes like you are. That is enough time to go for a few hour cruise every weekend, which unfortunately is what a lot of these boats get. At the marina where my boss keeps his boats, there are several that get 100-200 hours a season, however the majority of boats get 30-60 hours, and these are all 45-60 ft cruisers. A good cruise for my bosses boat is three hours, a 50 mile round trip run to Niagara on the Lake and back, and that is pretty standard for my area. There is however a fine line between getting enough use, and sitting too much. I would prefer having a few more hours, and good regular maintenance, but schedules do not always allow that.
  5. NYCAP123, Mar 14, 2015
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    Batteries. Make sure the yard checks them before you arrive with the surveyor so your day isn't wasted. Also check when they were installed. I think changing them will probably be the first thing you do after purchase.
  6. Maxwell, Mar 19, 2015
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    Appreciate the responses. I received the first survey results. Nothing major however NYCAP, you were correct with regard to batteries. 7 of 8 failed load testing. Next steps will be to check all systems that couldn't be operated once the boat is splashed and get Cat on board.

    max
  7. Yachtguymke, Mar 19, 2015
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    Moving up from a Sovran?
  8. Maxwell, Mar 20, 2015
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    We are. We sold the Sovran last summer as wife and I were both changing jobs and we didn't know where we would end up geographically. Bought a place in Highland Park which at least kept us on Lake MI. Next we wanted a boat that had a better sea keeping ability than the Sovran. Figured an older 42 open would fit the bill and budget for the time being...
  9. Yachtguymke, Mar 20, 2015
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    I thought your name sounded familiar. Hey Jude ring a bell?