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82' Burger for sale in Ft Lauderdale

Discussion in 'Burger Yacht' started by partgypsy, Apr 13, 2013.

  1. partgypsy

    partgypsy New Member

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    We are interested in the 82' Burger listed with National Liquidators in Ft Lauderdale. We would want to use it as a liveaboard on Chesapeake Bay. The photos look nice and appear to be recent. At $149k, it seems to be a lot of boat for the money.
    Does anyone in this community have first hand knowledge of this boat?

    I see the same old adages over and over... "paint doesn't stick to aluminum" and "teak decks always leak". I am sure that is true... but to what degree is this a factor in the purchase decision, given all the other potential costs involved?
    I see modest aluminum boats at just about every marina and while not perfect, they are certainly not unsightly. if I have to budget a few thousand annually for touch ups, I'm OK.
    There do not appear to be leaks on these decks. Maybe it is a ticking clock, but if it has been cared for or re-mediated somehow. I can plan and budget for solution when the time comes.
    Last... what kind of folks are National Liquidators to deal with?
    Thanks
  2. Pascal

    Pascal Senior Member

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    When a deal is too good... It usually is. And this is even more true of repo'ed boats!

    My concern with a repo'ed alum boat is that maintenance is likely to have suffered in the months or years prior to the repo. The first thing I'd do looking at such a boat would be to head for the ER, lazarette and bilges and check out how they look. Look for corrosion, pitting, etc... And if you find any evidence of neglect: run!

    Do this before you look at anything else on the boat so that you don't kid yourself about how great a value she is.

    Don't get me wrong, alum is a great material and these burgers can indeed be terrific boats but can't take neglect as a fiberglass hull will
  3. Capt J

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    I've never had a boat where the teak decks leak. It all depends on how they're fastened or glued to the deck.

    Generally the boats at National Liquidators need A LOT of repairs and work. If the owners didn't have enough money to pay the payment, they certaintly haven't been spending the money they don't have on repairs and maintanence. If the hull is thin, and needs plates replaced on the bottom, that can get expensive pretty quick. The cost of properly maintaining an 82' Aluminum yacht would be at least half of the sale price annually at that's being nice.

    Generally the people at National Liquidators have been pretty nice and easy to deal with if you want to go looking around at boats. However, the boats recieve little to no maintanence or care at all once they go to National Liquidators. They do have a survey done on every boat they get in and will usually share what they know about the boat......but it's sort of like a bank with a foreclosure, each boat is just another number in their inventory. One situation, I had an owner that had a deal on a large Bertram SF with DDEC's. They accepted his offer, and he set up a survey and seatrial. The batteries were so bad that neither motor could be started, they nor the bank would not pay to change the batteries so he could seatrial the boat to purchase it, so he had to buy new batteries for a boat he didn't own, just to seatrial the boat to see if he was going to purchase it.
  4. RT46

    RT46 Senior Member

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    A 80' boat that only cost 150k to buy will still cost you as much money to properly maintain and run as a 1.5m 80' boat....

    I agree with CaptJ, you could easily spend 50-80k just keeping it afloat and operating

    Maintenance is maintenance

    Fuel is fuel

    Mechanical cost is mechanical costs

    dock space is dock space

    Paint is paint

    bright work is bright work

    Electric is electric

    I bet you could find a decent 53 Hatteras with the same number of staterooms and that would cost you a lot less to maintain and operate that the 50 year old Burger
  5. YachtForums

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    Like you, I have a soft spot for battered Burgers and beat-up Browards. As tempting as it seems, don't let the romantic notion of rescuing her blindside your common sense. Restorations are rewarding, but the time it takes away from your business can be costly. Here's a suggestion, ask NL if you can spend a day cleaning her up. It will help them and it may cure you. :D
  6. bliss

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    Some boats are over priced at $00.00
  7. Norseman

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    Nice boat...

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    From looking at the interior pics she looks clean but a little dated.
    (As should be, she is)

    Hidden problems will most likely lurk in the innards, a survey is a must and could be the best investment ever.

    Figure $22.00 per foot.
  8. Capt J

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    I agree with you on the Burgers. They have timeless lines and a classic beauty. I cannot agree with you on the Browards.....too many hard edges and weird looks to them......plus 8 or 9 out of 10 older Browards I've come across have been seriously neglected mechanically.....Most of the older Burgers are still well kept.
  9. YachtForums

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    True statement.
  10. Indigo2

    Indigo2 New Member

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    Love the Burgers

    I took over a neglected-for 2 years-Burger. I still love that one as I spent alot of time and the boss's money. I am currently retired as a Yachtie and on a new path but my first mate is still working and loves the Burgers as well. Forget the new boats-I don't like them unless you want to go fast-really fast. And then they are dangerous.
    Not everything was done but to keep up the boat, where proper repairs and maintenance have not been done, is time consuming and a lot of work. Like the decks-check to see in the bungs are solid and not leaking. spray some water and see where the water stays and does not dry. The original decks are very solid and thick and you may learn how to make them look like new again with the proper tools and materials. Or else if they are shot-replace them with the new overlays. Check all, I mean all, the bilge spaces for salt crystals and water line marks in case the bilge pump stopped working and find the tank tops for any degredation due to water sitting on the tops. Before you move the boat, unless you tow it to your favorite yard, have the tanks and fuel tested for old diesel and water, you may need to have them cleaned as well. Then replace the fuel cap o-rings to stop water from entering the tanks-nobody ever does this. Check the drip glands for the shafts and check for corrosion as well-sometimes the tube that the shaft goes thru has some weakness and may need attention. Check the hydralic ram for the steering system and make sure it does not need rebuilding. Do an electrical survey, hull and engine survey. That my friend is how you start.
  11. CTdave

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    Gorgeous yacht! I hope someone grabs it!
    Has anyone done any research on it? I'm getting interested now :eek:

    Screw that, I've learned about projects!