[brian eiland]

Oil is not a fossil fuel, oil is continuously replenished anew, it is made in the earth from Iron, carbonates, heat, steam under tremendous pressure. Then it slowly migrates upwards to form vast underground 'lakes' of oil.





Fossils From Animals And Plants Are Not Necessary For Crude Oil And Natural Gas, Swedish Researchers Find

What would happen if it were proven that "fossil fuels" weren't the result of decaying plant and animal matter, were actually created within the Earth due to simple chemistry and you could not be scared into believing that we were "running out" of oil and natural gas?

Scientists Prove Abiotic Oil Is Real!

Have some fun reading
http://tehnica-bordeianu.webnode.com...reen-hysteria/
http://www.americantraditions.org/Ar...20of%20Oil.htm
Oil IS abiotic - finally it is admitted as having been shown.
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.....this subject, along with multiple weblinks, suddenly came up over in this conversation on another forum
Will $5/gallon gas change the next boat you buy? - Page 11 - Boat Design Forums

The gentleman has provided even more multiple links to support these claims. Hopefully a number of readers here will discover some interesting material in these links and bring some conversation to this forum. I'm going to invite the orginal poster over there to get involved with conversations on this forum as well.

[ddw1668]

I read an article in Omni magazine 30 years ago that postulated the same thing. Abiotic oil makes a whole lot more sense than decayed dinosaur! Seems like keeping the teeming masses believing the BS is more convenient than the truth..........

[Capt J]

Well, I have heard numerous reports of oil wells in Texas that they sucked dry and capped 30 years ago, now have oil in them again.

[Norseman]

Been thinking the same: There was never enough dinosaurs to produce all the **** oil and gas we have been burning for the last 100 years.

[carelm]

Even if crude oil was fossil fuel, would that not also be a continuous process? Plants and animals still die off. It then becomes a matter of how fast it gets replenished versus how fast it gets consumed.

[jhall767]

I've seen this theory going around for years. I don't know which side to believe on it though. Everybody has an agenda and it's not always clear if they are arguing for the truth or their agenda. Those arguing we have reached peak oil and must find alternative energy sources usually either a) Are against big oil or b) Have a vested interested in alternative energy sources and/or high oil prices or both.

Those arguing that oil is abiotic may have a variety of reasons but one of them would be to maintain the status quo. We have plenty of oil - don't worry.

If oil is truly abiotic then we should be able to produce crude oil or natural gas in a laboratory experiment which is identical or nearly identical to the oil extracted from the ground. The experiment should be documented and be able to be duplicated in any similarly equipped lab. Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen that yet. If we can produce diamonds, which are rare, there is no reason we couldn't produce abiotic crude.

Always an interesting topic though.

[bernd1972]

Well, the russians came up with that abiotic oil theory quite some decades ago. Based on that assumption they drilled for oil several kilometers deep, far too deep for fossil origin of oil, and guess what they´re pumping out of these holes? Correct, it´s oil.

[Telemachus]

Even if that were true, this would not obviate the environmental damage that the burning of said abiotic fuel visits upon us.

[AMG]

Originally Posted by Meidich_Hoertz

Even if that were true, this would not obviate the environmental damage that the burning of said abiotic fuel visits upon us.

Can you give us an example?

[carelm]

Originally Posted by AMG

Can you give us an example?

Smog would be the one most people are familiar with. Also the various oil spills such as EXXON Valdez and the BP oil rig disaster.

[AMG]

Originally Posted by carelm

Smog would be the one most people are familiar with.

This is the smog we have today, mainly from cooking...

Atmospheric Brown Clouds

[Marmot]

Originally Posted by carelm

Smog would be the one most people are familiar with.

Still a huge issue. I wish I had videos to show what it looks like from the cockpit climbing out of Seattle as the aircraft passes through the top of the smog layer. On approach you almost brace for a bump as you hit it. It is ugly yellow orange toxic crap that flows like water into the valleys and around the terrain.

Any city built in a basin looks like this (LA) from the air:

[carelm]

Originally Posted by Marmot

Still a huge issue. I wish I had videos to show what it looks like from the cockpit climbing out of Seattle as the aircraft passes through the top of the smog layer. On approach you almost brace for a bump as you hit it. It is ugly yellow orange toxic crap that flows like water into the valleys and around the terrain.

Any city built in a basin looks like this (LA) from the air:

I grew up in the LA area in the 60s and 70s. Some days it was just plain nasty. You had trouble breathing and your eyes watered and burned. If the inversion layer was low, you just stayed indoors.

[travler]

i too grew up in L A area in the late 50's and early 60's and i do belive the smog is less now than it was 40 to 50 years ago , i know when doing an aproche into the air port i frequent the standard 3 miles smoke and haze is a little easer to see through than it used to be (mabey i'am getting old and acn't see as well as i used to LOL )

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[brian eiland]

Originally Posted by jhall767

If oil is truly abiotic then we should be able to produce crude oil or natural gas in a laboratory experiment which is identical or nearly identical to the oil extracted from the ground. The experiment should be documented and be able to be duplicated in any similarly equipped lab. Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen that yet. If we can produce diamonds, which are rare, there is no reason we couldn't produce abiotic crude.

Always an interesting topic though.

A team consisting of Russian scientists and Dr J. F. Kenney, of Gas Resources Corporation, Houston, USA, have actually built a reactor vessel and proven that oil is produced from calcium carbonate and iron oxide, as detailed on the Gas Resources website The high-pressure genesis of hydrocarbons
Further, they wrote a paper which was published in 2002 in the prestigious Proceedings of the United States National Academy of Science (PNAS), where they proved that for the alkanes comprising petroleum, except for methane, to be formed from biological matter would be in contravention of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
The high-pressure genesis of hydrocarbons

Here is an interesting paper...long but interesting
BIOGENIC & ABIOGENIC PETROLEUM