[bernd1972]

Now someone might ask why we don´t produce our own oil.
Legit question, simple answer.
Producing oil requires more energy than the energy stored in the oil. Down in the earth this energy is availeable for free, in a a laboratory it´s not.

[brian eiland]

Here is an interesting paper...long but interesting
BIOGENIC & ABIOGENIC PETROLEUM[/QUOTE]

If you look thru this paper you will find some brief references to the original German program to develop synthetic fuels, and some susequent work by the USA....but everything stopped with normal fuel prices so low at that time.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by AMG

Can you give us an example?

Carbon dioxide, acid rain.

The extraction and transportation of these substances also damages ecosystems. Exxon Valdez, BP Gulf of Mexico oil spill of 2010, etc.

[AMG]

Originally Posted by Meidich_Hoertz

Carbon dioxide, acid rain.

The extraction and transportation of these substances also damages ecosystems. Exxon Valdez, BP Gulf of Mexico oil spill of 2010, etc.

You wrote; "...the environmental damage that the burning of said abiotic fuel visits upon us."

Sure it could cause acid rain, even though the human contribution today mainly is from burning coal in homes and older power plants.

I have not yet heard of environmental damage from carbon dioxide..?

[FISHTIGUA]

Originally Posted by AMG

I have not yet heard of environmental damage from carbon dioxide..?

I can think of one or two people who pollute the atmosphere with carbon dioxide just by breathing.

They are called politicians.

[brian eiland]

So cynical Fishtigua

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by AMG

You wrote; "...the environmental damage that the burning of said abiotic fuel visits upon us."

Sure it could cause acid rain, even though the human contribution today mainly is from burning coal in homes and older power plants.

I have not yet heard of environmental damage from carbon dioxide..?

1. It has been suggested that increasing levels of carbon dioxide, a byproduct of burning fossil fuels, has contributed to the rising global temperature.

2. Excessive carbon dioxide relative to the oxygen supply isn't healthy. If you don't believe me, ask the people who run their cars with the garage door still down--except that might be difficult, since so many of them end up dead. Maybe those fumes are unhealthy. It certainly isn't because of the pine-tree air freshener handing from the rear-view mirror.

[AMG]

Originally Posted by Meidich_Hoertz

1. It has been suggested that increasing levels of carbon dioxide, a byproduct of burning fossil fuels, has contributed to the rising global temperature.

2. Excessive carbon dioxide relative to the oxygen supply isn't healthy. If you don't believe me, ask the people who run their cars with the garage door still down--except that might be difficult, since so many of them end up dead. Maybe those fumes are unhealthy. It certainly isn't because of the pine-tree air freshener handing from the rear-view mirror.

1. OK, Carbon Dioxide is contributing to rising temperatures, so far about 0,35 °C in 150 years. This is not really environmental damage.

2. Carbon Monoxide is not healthy.

[Old Phart]

Originally Posted by Meidich_Hoertz

1. It has been suggested that increasing levels of carbon dioxide, a byproduct of burning fossil fuels, has contributed to the rising global temperature.

2. Excessive carbon dioxide relative to the oxygen supply isn't healthy. If you don't believe me, ask the people who run their cars with the garage door still down--except that might be difficult, since so many of them end up dead. Maybe those fumes are unhealthy. It certainly isn't because of the pine-tree air freshener handing from the rear-view mirror.

Let us not forget the Life Cycle:

The Oxygen Cycle

Originally Posted by link

This means that plants "breathe" in carbon dioxide and "breathe" out oxygen.

Animals form the other half of the oxygen cycle. We breathe in oxygen which we use to break carbohydrates down into energy in a process called respiration.

Carbon dioxide produced during respiration is breathed out by animals into the air.

Excessive carbon dioxide = stop breathing or plant more trees, your choice.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by AMG

1. OK, Carbon Dioxide is contributing to rising temperatures, so far about 0,35 °C in 150 years. This is not really environmental damage.

2. Carbon Monoxide is not healthy.

Touche, it is carbon monoxide--which we can all recognize as a byproduct of burning petroleum.

Carbon dioxide is still unhealthy in high concentrations and the relative increase of carbon dioxide in relation to the percentage of oxygen appears to be rising. I know someone will say, "we don't have enough proof upon which to base any changes in our behavior." The problem with this line of thinking is that if we wait for definitive proof, it could be the very damage we fear.

[Old Phart]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

Touche, it is carbon monoxide--which we can all recognize as a byproduct of burning petroleum.

Carbon dioxide is still unhealthy in high concentrations and the relative increase of carbon dioxide in relation to the percentage of oxygen appears to be rising. I know someone will say, "we don't have enough proof upon which to base any changes in our behavior." The problem with this line of thinking is that if we wait for definitive proof, it could be the very damage we fear.

Excessive carbon dioxide = stop breathing or plant more trees, your choice.

Why?

The Oxygen Cycle