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01-17-2009, 08:07 PM
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The Magma/Iceberg has a definite something about it - I think it is the classic proportions, much more stylish than many of the current templates. Unfortunately, maximum internal volume usually wins out, which counts against the low, sleek profile.
It is nice to see something that is not bound by convention, and that shows that there are alternative way of approaching the exterior styling of a yacht - that is what I like so much about "A", "Guilty", etc.
It is a shame there isn't a higher abundance of adventurous owners out there.
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01-18-2009, 08:57 AM
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| Obsidienne, Magma's daughter
Here is Obsidienne, named from precious black stone coming out of volcanoes.
I kept the same superstructure than Magma, but the hull is shaped like a classic.
I think you should appreciate much more that one than the previous mind-striking Magma.
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01-18-2009, 09:12 AM
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Now that is interesting. It could make a rather nice dinner yacht.
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01-20-2009, 06:56 PM
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Nice work!! ... what about this idea- design a full on stealth low RCS version of Organik or Maritimus? (low curvy-wurvy)
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01-29-2009, 05:49 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by SVDesign Here is Obsidienne, named from precious black stone coming out of volcanoes.
I kept the same superstructure than Magma, but the hull is shaped like a classic.
I think you should appreciate much more that one than the previous mind-striking Magma.
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Magma, Iceberg and Obsidienne ... love those ideas.
The hull plating of 'Magma' is simply stunning. Being a three dimensional plating - layered in a sense rather than a painted surface - makes it quite dramatic. Works great for 'Iceberg' as well. Never mind real world applications. My personal preference would be 'Obsidienne'. It has a sleek appearance - to me - that works well with the overall yacht's design. The glass canopy is very attractive as well. Imagine 'Obsidienne' or something like it docked in the "sea of white" marinas ...
Great out of the box thinking and playfulness with the old time elements married with the more modern design touches.
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01-29-2009, 05:58 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by PFJW The Magma/Iceberg has a definite something about it - I think it is the classic proportions, much more stylish than many of the current templates. Unfortunately, maximum internal volume usually wins out, which counts against the low, sleek profile.
It is nice to see something that is not bound by convention, and that shows that there are alternative way of approaching the exterior styling of a yacht - that is what I like so much about "A", "Guilty", etc.
It is a shame there isn't a higher abundance of adventurous owners out there. |
PFJW
I like your thinking.
Yes, there is a lack of adventurous owners. And perhaps a lack of owners who do not know or understand good design. Looking at marinas and harbours around the world it is stunning - stunning - to see how one yacht after the other all just seem to blend into the next. It is a sea of white, neutrals and forms that look like they come from the same hands or molds.
Being design adventurous does not have to mean crazy design, and pushing existing and past boundaries of design - sometimes going through those boundaries - is essential to further growth of ideas and technological evolvement. The big spenders are of course in the driver's seats, but it should not prevent designers from playing with the art and perhaps entice future owners who thought they would go 'standard' until they see the light on 'the other side' - of the drawing table.
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01-29-2009, 06:49 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by BjornS The big spenders are of course in the driver's seats, but it should not prevent designers from playing with the art and perhaps entice future owners who thought they would go 'standard' until they see the light on 'the other side' - of the drawing table. |
It has been known to happen.
Purely in terms of design & styling, I think that owners are more open to the idea now, certainly as more "individual" boats are launched; people's ideas and perceptions of what a yacht should look like will be recalibrated.
I think a bigger problem with exterior styling is finding clients who are prepared to sacrifice volume just to retain a sleek profile in comparison to the archetypal yacht of that size.
Compare Silver with any other 70m yacht - it looks fantastic, but has considerably less accommodation than most owners in the market for a 70m are looking for or would expect.
Considering that you would spend a great deal more of your time living aboard than looking at the exterior, it is easy to understand why the majority of people would sooner forfeit the exterior styling.
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01-29-2009, 07:23 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by PFJW Considering that you would spend a great deal more of your time living aboard than looking at the exterior, it is easy to understand why the majority of people would sooner forfeit the exterior styling. |
Yes, true. For many it seems that way. It also goes back to my point about taste and sense of design. This is of course where the designers must come in to create viable design options to their potential clients to showcase that it is possible to marry both design and function - volume and shape. I know - the almighty Ben Franklins (and its cousins) rules many folks' decisions. Designers have the obligation to find ways to do both well. That is their job. Not just to be a yes-(wo)man, but to create and make ideas. Living space and looks combined. I think this certainly is achievable.
Let the ideas flow onto the oceans.
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01-29-2009, 09:07 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by PFJW
Compare Silver with any other 70m yacht - it looks fantastic, but has considerably less accommodation than most owners in the market for a 70m are looking for or would expect. |
Silver is a good case in hand of trying something new. Probably if you squeezed her volume around- made her shorter wider and higher, really she might be the equivalent of a wedding cake yacht 55m long with another deck on top. This type of design thinking should be applauded, as length makes a better sea boat albeit a bit harder to dock. Predator is another good example-she only has 3 staterooms for her size.
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03-01-2009, 01:16 PM
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Another exercise of rendering.
Something is making it a bit not realistic, but i don't find what...
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03-01-2009, 01:24 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by SVDesign
Something is making it a bit not realistic, but i don't find what...
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The hull is upside down to start with... |
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03-01-2009, 01:33 PM
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If only.......
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03-19-2009, 04:40 AM
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| Super S coming out...
Length : 60.00m
Displacement : <500 tons
Speed : >50 kts
Propulsion : 2 x diesel and steering hydrojets + 1 x gas turbine and booster jet
I'm waiting for Batman calling soon.....
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03-19-2009, 06:41 AM
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Now that's different, new and very exciting.
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03-19-2009, 07:02 AM
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hi SVDesign
thats a very impractical boat.... i love it, looks fantastic.
far
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