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06-11-2008, 10:06 AM
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Jannick, I want portlights to look "natural" from inside and having them in an angle wood probably make the owners seasick...
The basic idea with this design is to get an efficient hull, why it is pretty narrow, especially in the entry, and then the superstructure must be moved back to look good from all angles and to get the centre of gravity where the displacement is.
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06-11-2008, 11:14 AM
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#137 | | Senior Member
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get the centre of gravity where the displacement is
| Err, you could also help that out with a more conventional transom, no?
Kelly
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06-11-2008, 11:50 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by KCook Err, you could also help that out with a more conventional transom, no?
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I was thinking weight, where the transom style has no effect. Visually I could extend the superstructure aft with a conventional transom. Like this:
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06-11-2008, 02:14 PM
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Nice design, I would make the fly bridge area a bit more user friendly though, so as to accommodate a hot tub and a tanning area.
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06-11-2008, 04:49 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by outmywindow Nice design, I would make the fly bridge area a bit more user friendly though, so as to accommodate a hot tub and a tanning area. |
Thanks, I am afraid the hot tub will be very shallow, one feet max..  This flybridge has a small footprint as it comes down in the salon area, it is not a top deck. But it can be nice to sit up here and drive the boat as I think she will be owner operated for most people. Tanning area is on fore deck...
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06-11-2008, 08:29 PM
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This may not be a good comparison but I can’t think of a similar purpose yacht right now, and personally I like your masculine design better.
But out of curiosity, how is the Mochi 74 accepted in the Euro market, and is it enjoying a successful production run.
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06-12-2008, 04:29 AM
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I think you can compare the Dolphin 74 with this boat. But I have no idea how it is selling, just that people seems to like it.
Like most boats however, they are very heavy compared to ours, probably almost twice the weight and consuming at least 50 percent more fuel. This year is the first where we have noticed that people are very concerned about fuel efficiency. It is probably due to a combination of the climate hype and the rocketing fuel prices.
Luckily we have foreseen this and are building very light and hightech boats with outstanding speed and mileage. But to handle a fast and light boat you need a little more experience than with a heavy built boat. You can not just put on the autopilot and relax in speeds around 40 knots...
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06-13-2008, 03:45 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by AMG
Like most boats however, they are very heavy compared to ours, probably almost twice the weight and consuming at least 50 percent more fuel. Luckily we have foreseen this and are building very light and hightech boats with outstanding speed and mileage. |
That sounds very promising with an instant "edge" over the competition, that is if there is any.
But one must wonder if such a weight saving (on the D75) will have a negative effect on the boat's seaworthiness in heavy seas and stability.
*just rambling, as I'm not a naval architect.
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06-13-2008, 05:00 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by outmywindow
But one must wonder if such a weight saving (on the D75) will have a negative effect on the boat's seaworthiness in heavy seas and stability.
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Not at all, but as I said it is a little more challenging driving on top of the seas at high speed, compared to going through the waves at lower speeds. But the idea with the D75 design is to be able to do both, the narrow bow will split the waves in lower speeds and should be lifted above in higher speeds. Remains to be seen of course, but you get a hint of it if you look at the modern fast sailing boats.
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07-19-2008, 01:35 PM
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It is good to leave a design for a while and see if it can be improved. This version has now been tweaked almost everywhere, but still retains most of the original idea. I will try to make it as a 55 foot version as well before deciding on the 50-footer I have started with. It makes more sense to have a similar design style on both of the coming boats I think...
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07-19-2008, 02:07 PM
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:O stunning
i take 2 of 'em
no really that one'll sell like the new iPhone
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07-19-2008, 02:49 PM
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Thanks Jannick, perhaps if I do like I was told once, sell my designs as posters... |
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07-19-2008, 03:34 PM
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I do like the bold look of the front half. Not so settled on the back half. Though this may be one of those cases where a perspective view would give a better presentation?
Kelly
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07-19-2008, 03:48 PM
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Kelly, if it isn´t good in 2D, no 3D rendering can make it better... |
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07-19-2008, 04:10 PM
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Sorry, I cannot agree on that. A profile gives no hint as to the beam. And a wide beam can give breathing room to a design that may be out of tune on a narrow beam.
yer Novice
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