Lars Modin Design III

AMG · 07-10-2006, 09:22 AM

Hi Ken,

On the Double Bling I think retractable wing stations will do the trick, just as on Lady Moura http://www.shipspotting.com/uploads/photos/256315.jpg

On yachts like Octopus the big wings are justified as she got her design inspiration from large ice-breakers.

But again, on "small" boats (150´-200´) and as you say, often just a feet from the next, I would rather be without them. If you have ever been to Port Camille Rayon in Golfe Juan, you know that on the pier you would need fenders on the upper decks anyway....

I can agree that you should be able to see your own fenders on the side you are and with a trained crew you can then reverse straight without using the noisy bow thruster, just letting the anchor guy help with the brakes when needed...

Ken Bracewell · 07-10-2006, 09:36 AM

Lars,
You have only been refering to a situation where you are mooring stern-to. While that is most common in Europe, the United States and Caribbean are predominently serviced by marinas in which you often have to maneuver the boat in a series of "S" turns in order to reach your slip inside the harbor.
While the protuding wing stations offer the best visiblity, I have always found a permanent station located inside the bulwarks to be sufficient. This will cause to captain to have to lean out over the side to directly see the fenders, but it is more than adequate. With this configuration, there is no need for fancy fenders nor moving parts to retract the station.
Again, Double Bling looks to be a beautiful design and I would be proud to be her captain!

Ken

AMG · 07-10-2006, 09:54 AM

I am glad you like her! Maybe we will have the pleasure of seeing her built anyway...

On my designs there are always wing stations outside the wheelhouse or up on the flybridge if there is a raised wheelhouse. On the boat I was living in southern France I just had a centre station on the fly, but it was easy to walk over to the side and back to the controls. I just had a deckhand who always forgot to tell me distance to quay, but we managed well anyway...

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/mo...chts-85-a.html

BTW, there is a Benetti without side decks at the wheelhouse and instead they have a remote control that the captain uses on the flybridge, he walks all over this large fly and how he can keep track of what is left and right when he is suddenly facing aft I don´t know..

You can see him on picture 3 and 6 here;
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/be...otoryacht.html

EnigmaNZ · 08-23-2006, 12:31 PM

Love your designs Lar. I have done a quick stretch mod to your Victoria 2 to create my fantasy yacht, please excuse the rehash

I don't have a fancy paint program, but you get the idea.

AMG · 08-23-2006, 01:03 PM

Thanks, yes I got the idea!

I was thinking of something similar already when I first made this design and at the same time got to see the first rendering of Maltese Falcon. This was the result...

EnigmaNZ · 08-24-2006, 12:38 AM

Hmm, reminds me of a song, "there's a mast in your funnel dear Lars dear Lars, there's a mast in your funnel dear Lars a mast. Well shift it dear..." couldn't help myself :P

Thought of the dynarig but wasn't sure of the esthetics, it seems more suited to yachts with a low narrow hull and low superstructure, and with turn of the century classics, hmm 4 on the Saravona would be magic. A normal rig has to many stays etc for a large motor sailor M/Y and is too ineffecient, though I see you can with new materials do away with stays etc, I guess at the moment a wingsail is going to be permanently set, unless you go with a kite. Hmm. With the price of fuel so high, I guess a private nuclear M/Y is out of the question.

Drifting a bit off topic so time to brain storm in my own time hehe.

Cheers Lars.

AMG · 08-26-2006, 07:11 PM

At 600 feet, the latest and largest Pandora is a true Gigayacht, or XXL...

Codger · 08-27-2006, 01:05 AM

What would the beam be on the XXL version?
Just playing with a quick thought on the total sqare footage of space :-)

AMG · 08-27-2006, 04:18 AM

As I always try to maintain the same beam as height, she will be 92 feet wide. Maximum draught 20 feet.

So about the volume I will chime in with the little floating home at the wall in Port Vauban, Antibes. It has a sign saying "Ca suffit", teasing all owners and crew while they are going to their Megayachts at IYCA...

Codger · 08-27-2006, 12:05 PM

Sufficient....... Yes, I'd think so :-) Never thought that having room for a go cart track on board was necessary. 600x92 x at least 6 levels would give one some nice options for a morning walk.

EnigmaNZ · 10-24-2006, 09:15 AM

Lars, what is it they say, a man with large toys is compensating for a small piece of personal equipment hehehe.

Francois · 12-03-2006, 11:41 AM

Lars ,this design of this megayacht is absolutly awesome.Stunning lines and yes its beautiful and space gallor.Humm..., I wonder who will do the woodworking part of it,I wish I was there when the order comes.May be in my next life I will be able to afford one

Francois

Codger · 02-09-2007, 03:55 PM

Wondering where you'd place lifeboats, probably required, on Pandora without destroying the lines?

AMG · 02-09-2007, 04:34 PM

Hi Codger,

Same as on the smaller Pandoras, the stern is open with a pocket for lifeboats. Not that you need to have them if it was a private yacht I think, but still there is space for two 80 pax boats there. Life rafts are stored on racks in front of the aft helipad and are released through the big openings there.

Codger · 02-09-2007, 05:57 PM

Thanks
Been sorting out classifications and requirements. Seems that the insurance industry has more than a little influence. I know that influence to be the case in the construction of offshore oil platforms but didn't know that it was quite so rigourously applied to yachts.