Lars Modin Design III

AMG · 04-22-2006, 06:15 PM

Thanks guys! I have also made a version with a more traditional transom.
It is interesting to see that several new yachts are built this way again, while a classic yacht like Rio Rita just got a less good looking extension...

Codger · 04-22-2006, 06:58 PM

I like this transom better. Rake the forward bridge glass to the same angle as the bow..
More Marlena than Greta.

AMG · 04-22-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Codger

I like this transom better. Rake the forward bridge glass to the same angle as the bow..
More Marlena than Greta.

Thank you Codger, and I agree, this transom is more timeless. I tried with different angles on the forward windows and this is the best looking from outside I think. Then I know it is often better visibility from inside a negative windscreen.

About Greta, she came from my hometown...

KCook · 04-22-2006, 08:19 PM

Yes but .... Do like the traditional stern better. However I would be tempted to make the bulwarks on the aft ends of the open decks less slanted to better harmonize with the new transom profile.

ever picky Kelly

Codger · 04-22-2006, 08:36 PM

I suppose that form follows function has it's limitations. Different aesthetic priorities. I defer to Garbo

Gorgeous woman and a vessel worthy of her name.

Anthropomorphize Liv Ullman and Milla Jovovich in to the design of a yacht and the seas would never be the same again

Codger · 04-22-2006, 08:43 PM

Kelly, point taken about the relative angles.
If the transom was a perfect vertical then the aft deck bulwark angles at 45 degrees would work within the "rule of eighths". There is just something naturally balanced and attractive about those complimentary angles.

Arniev · 04-22-2006, 09:00 PM

Lars,
Is that a heli-pad back there?
Arnie

AMG · 04-23-2006, 11:35 AM

Yes Arnie, if you like. It can be just a pick up pad or a permanent. One possibillity is to have a pad that can be jacked up for take-off and landing instead of having foldable bulwarks.

Kelly and Codger, angles are something that can be adjusted forever

If you start to raise the angles aft you have to balance it by raising them forward as well, and then the bow... Only adjustment I made was the chineline that drops sharper on this version than with the other transom.

Since she is a pretty big yacht I think she needs to look a little sporty or otherwise she will be taken for a mini cruise ship..?

Arniev · 04-23-2006, 09:13 PM

The heli fits in perfectly.
A true work of art.
I sincerely hope someone builds her!

AMG · 05-19-2006, 04:55 PM

As I have got a new computer and programs, I am testing to convert, import and export old files. This post is just to see the result of some testing and the boat is one of our production boats where I have made an open version...

Codger · 07-09-2006, 04:21 PM

Double Bling
Wouldn't the radar on the foreward mast be more effective if mounted higher?
Also it looks like that radar would be at line of sight right in front of the bridge. Distracting?
Wings off the bridge or could that be accomplished without messing up the lines of the design? Or am I blowing smoke and the wings would not be required anyway?

AMG · 07-09-2006, 05:09 PM

The radar on the necessary forward lantern mast is only for harbour use. Could be even lower and more forward if it wasn´t for the helipad. It is now over the bridge level, both to distract less and also to avoid the rays hitting people on the bridge deck.

I am not sure any wing stations are needed, but it is easy to build retractable wings as on Lady Moura and Rising Sun if you like. The sudden fashion in having protruding wing stations also on smaller yachts is actually pretty stupid. In most European ports they can hit the yacht next to it and hence requires some special fenders attached. Just an added concern when manoevring instead of a help...

Thanks for bringing this up Codger!

Codger · 07-09-2006, 07:42 PM

Ah! So many questions answered. I had wondered previously about some of what looked to be very oversized fenders on a couple of the yachts with wing stations. Now I understand. If the Captain doesn't require the wing stations then why bother.
Is the forward lantern mast required at all times or could it be retractable/telescoping?

AMG · 07-10-2006, 03:38 AM

The lanterns can all be retracted when not needed, also the side lanterns. On boats running under engine and longer than 50 meter a white light forward and lower than the top light is required. This light can also be used on boats shorter than 50 m which is less known.

On Double Bling I have a fixed mast where the lantern is raised telescopic and there is also a 360° anchor light.

About wing stations they can be useful on yachts with several decks where the sides are not vertical. Then they improve visibility without making the yacht wider. But in my experience a good captain knows his yacht pretty well and there is always a crew member transmitting from aft deck or a deck above, the position of the yacht and where to go, how many meters left and so on.

Ken Bracewell · 07-10-2006, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AMG

About wing stations they can be useful on yachts with several decks where the sides are not vertical. Then they improve visibility without making the yacht wider. But in my experience a good captain knows his yacht pretty well and there is always a crew member transmitting from aft deck or a deck above, the position of the yacht and where to go, how many meters left and so on.

Lars. First let me say that this is a beautiful vessel and I have been watching this thread for some time.
My two cents worth is that wing stations are an invaluable tool when maneuvering in tight quarters. That being said, the largest of my commands was 160', and at that size we are expected to be able squeeze ourselves into any marina which was previously designed for 100' boats. In these small marinas, we are generally not working in "meters", but rather increments of a "foot" (east vs. west in that case

). In that particular situation the difference between line of site and a radio transmission would be monumental. I have a great crew and am able to feel comfortable with less than a foot on my blind side, but that is also because I can see the side onwhich I am standing.
OK- so if Double Bling were too large to enter into a small marina (or anything other than a face dock), I could justify the lack of wing stations. My humble opinion, though, is to make the necessary change to include them so as to be prepared for any likelihood.
Good luck.
Ken