[YachtNews]

Shadow Marine reportedly has a large projects in the works that will be larger than most shadows in service today. These vessels may be reconstructed and measure as long as 260 feet. These new generation of shadows will be called the Voyager.

Shadow Marine is now well entrenched in the shadow business with three distinct classes of shadow type support vessels. These are the Allure-Class, the Paladin-Class and the Mystere-Class. Allure Shadow of the Allure-Class can be argued to be the most lavish interior and exterior wise of the Shadow boats. However, a bigger, more lavish and utilitarian vessel may very well be on the horizon and this is to be the Voyager-Class.

For more in the future, stay posted to the Shadow Marine website at:

http://www.shadowmarine.com/

[YES!]

Raises an interesting question, YL.

What is the basis for such a large vessel? Having personally established the offshore supply vessel (OSV) as the platform of choice for yacht support vessel conversions and with the newest OSVs being just 220 feet; the prospect of 260 foot plus conversions for shadow boats is unclear.

The only obvious option is that these will be new, purpose-built vessels; however, the economies of cost and time of delivery (30% of an equivalent sized yacht and less than 1 year delivery) that are the hallmark of the refit and conversion projects are then lost.

But as the course of yachting appears to continue in the "Bigger is Better" mentality, more power to them.

[YachtNews]

Originally Posted by YES!

Raises an interesting question, YL.

What is the basis for such a large vessel? Having personally established the offshore supply vessel (OSV) as the platform of choice for yacht support vessel conversions and with the newest OSVs being just 220 feet; the prospect of 260 foot plus conversions for shadow boats is unclear.

The only obvious option is that these will be new, purpose-built vessels; however, the economies of cost and time of delivery (30% of an equivalent sized yacht and less than 1 year delivery) that are the hallmark of the refit and conversion projects are then lost.

But as the course of yachting appears to continue in the "Bigger is Better" mentality, more power to them.

I think it boils down to the bigger is better mentality. The bigger the yacht, the more toys and ancillary equipment 'might' be in question. So a bigger shadow to carry these components might be deemed as necessary. On the premise of a purpose built shadow of that size 260 feet, it depends on the aquasition process?

[K1W1]

Hi,

They (Shadow Marine)have recently been approached to see if they can convert a 265 ft boat into something other than a yacht, the client is still waiting for a sensible reply.

[YES!]

I (we @ Yes) would be happy to look at any "other than yacht" conversions. Our last completed project (Dec 07) we converted and refit a research vessel into a security/counter-terrorist platform.

[YES!]

Originally Posted by YachtLuver

I think it boils down to the bigger is better mentality. The bigger the yacht, the more toys and ancillary equipment 'might' be in question. So a bigger shadow to carry these components might be deemed as necessary. On the premise of a purpose built shadow of that size 260 feet, it depends on the aquasition process?

I skipped over your ?, YL. My point is the economy of time and money of the conversion is lost if there are not platforms appropriate to the mission.

We have learned that the most important decision in a conversion project is the selection of the basic vessel parameters.

I noticed on the latest cover of Showboats Int'l that the Allure Shadown has 2 sections in its bulwark that are simply open exept for a chain.

So, are these ships converted under any class rules? I can't imagine an ocean going vessel with a such 'bulwarks'.

And anybody has any experience with the Flume passive stabilizer system? I understand that for a 900 ton ship, you normally need huge tanks to be effective.

Thorwald

[YES!]

The Flume technology works exceptionally well on vessels with large righting moments as has been demonstrated once again on sea trials of the recently delivered motor yacht "SuRi" that was converted and refit to IACS Class (BV in this case) by Yacht Escort Ships (YES). The Flume tank on SuRi is 33 feet wide by 6 feet high by 6 feet deep and is conveniently located in the forward overhead of the 16 foot high hangar. The YES hangars are designed to accommodate the S-76 helicopter which is largest of the private flying limos.

You are correct that Flume installations are not so easy on typical motor yachts which do not offer the volume of a yacht support vessel.

It is my unconfirmed understanding from professional sources that the Shadow Marine vessel Allure is not built to Class, but you should verify that with the builder.

Thanks Stan,

OK. I'll check with Shadow marine on the class issue and stick with Maglift rotary stabilizers then as I don't have the volume without sacrifying a lot of space.

Thorwald