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11-29-2005, 07:20 PM
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#31 | | Publisher/Admin
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FWIW, (For What It's Worth)... Stan might not spend as much time with computers as we do, but I doubt any of us possess as much knowledge as he does!
IMHO, (In My Honest Opinion)... he might think Windows are something you stare through, but if you ever stare adversity in the face... you'll want this guy on your side!
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11-29-2005, 08:43 PM
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#32 | | Senior Member
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IMHO = In My Humble Opinion <with a dash of sarcasm> |
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12-01-2005, 06:40 PM
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#33 | | Senior Member
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Kevin - do you have a dictionary of computerese abbreviations and how did the world geekdom arrive at a concensus of teh acronym meanings? I have many varied and much more colorful applications for your alphabet soups.
Carl is much too kind and Kelly obviously too hard on him. Who are the 'puter police that decide whether it is an "honest" or a "humble" opinion, or h-squared, i.e., both.
Thank you all for allowing me to glimpse into the now generation.
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12-01-2005, 07:08 PM
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The Internet is basically anarchy on a worldwide scale. There are no "'puter police". Except the moderators for a message board can delete any post they so deem. Quality and activity level of moderators varies greatly from site to site  .
Some more:
BB = Big Block
BIL = Brother In Law
BTW = By The Way
FWIW = For What It's Worth
FYI = For Your Information
GFBL = Go Fast Be Loud
OT = Off Topic
SB = Small Block
SIL = Sister In Law
SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed
TBD = To Be Determined
It goes on and on. Some had their origins in the alphabet soup the military loves so much.
Kelly
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12-01-2005, 07:35 PM
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#35 | | Publisher/Admin
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I'm not sure on the terminology myself, but I think both "Humble and Honest" are accepted interpretations. The acronyms I'm most familar with are FBO, TCA, VFR, IFR, etc... but it's been years since I've used 'em.
Getting back to Shadows... Stan, can I get your autograph? I saw you interviewed on the Discovery Channel. Who knew we had a movie star onboard! |
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12-01-2005, 07:44 PM
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#36 | | Senior Member
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Carl -
I would be honored to autograph your contract as you become the first owner of the Paladin Shadow.
You had better be quick because the sharks are circling - no bites yet but there is blood in the water.
Keep up the great work, young man!
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12-02-2005, 07:01 AM
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#37 | | YF Moderator
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LOL
Stan, in the pics of Paladin Shadow that were first posted here, what's the boat on the trailer outside? That's looks like all sorts of fun!
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12-02-2005, 07:11 AM
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#38 | | Senior Member
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On the port aft deck of Paladin Shadow is a 28 foot Potector RIB with 2 X 225 HP Yamaha 4 Strokes.
Starboard aft is the "Liberty", a 38 foot Eliminator offshore racing boat with 2 X 650 HP Mercs.
Both move out pretty well.
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12-02-2005, 09:20 AM
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#39 | | Senior Member
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I like the concept of a shadow boat very much, but the design is not the best in my eyes, because I think, a shadow boat is a part of the main yacht. Does anyone have an idea to another design? Lars, I think it's your part
To Stan: What is your business concept? Are you building the shadow boats and sell the vessels or is it for charter?
Reg. f. the very cold Germany,
René
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12-02-2005, 10:08 AM
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Rene' -
Our concept is to use the great volume and cargo capacity of older commercial vessels, refit them to current standards, and then be able to market them as yacht support vessels for far less than it would cost to build the same vessel brand new.
These are over 900 ton displacement ships of steel with commercial machinery that is very easy to access (lots of room), straightforward to repair (functional design concepts - not like yachts) and can cross the oceans of the world forever. There is so much room compared to a yacht that it is hard to imagine until you see it. And to purchase a completely refit and converted 170 foot vessel with a 6 month warranty for less than USD $10million is a great value.
You are right, Rene', they are not so easy on the eye. We call the Shadows "ruggedly handsome", but to know them is to love them. I compare them to the SUVs and Hummer vehicles in the US. They are not sleek or elegant; but they are safe, seaworthy and get the job done.
We have been approached by many to charter Paladin Shadow, but that is an entirely different business - to hire crews then have crews trained to operate the Shadow and then have the vessel outfitted in a way that everyone would like. A charter rate has been established at USD $125,000 per week and if the postive interest continues, we may start chartering next summer in the Med with at least one boat.
We believe it is better and safer for a yachtsmen to have a smaller yacht so he can get into St. Tropez and Portofino with beautiful clear decks and without jets skis, kayaks, and tenders everywhere - keeping his Shadow at anchor with the helicopter, submarine, racing boats, etc., etc on board. And if you empty the hangar, it is the best party room in the world. The Shadow can be a tow boat, a passage finder, and fuel barge and a grocery store.
Think of the savings to build a 60 meter and have a Shadow boat instead of building a 75 meter so he/she can hang all of the toys and tenders still taking up valuable yacht real estate.
If you send me you email address I will send you our slideshow in case you have not seen the Paladin Shadow photos.
I participate in the Forum because many people with different perspectives and experiences come up with great ideas and new concepts. It is always good to hear other views and opinions.
The great thing about "taste" and "class" - you don't have to be rich to have the best of both.
Regards,
Stan
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12-02-2005, 10:30 AM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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For anybody serious about helicopter operations I would think the Shadow would be a no-brainer??? As for looks, a little creative paint on the sides of the hanger would do wonders.
Kelly
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12-02-2005, 10:31 AM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Shadow
If you send me you email address I will send you our slideshow in case you have not seen the Paladin Shadow photos.
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Do you mean the photos of your website? I have seen it. Or do you mean different photos? For the case if you mean other photos, here is my e-mail address: rene@rm-industries.com
René
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12-02-2005, 10:49 AM
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#43 | | YF Wisdom Dept.
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Shadow specs as shown on the website: Beam 38ft. Deck space 107 x 29 feet.
Grumman J2F6 Wingspan 39 ft, Length 34 ft. Gear down height 15'10" Wet 7110 pounds
Hmmmm.
What is the actual width and height of the garage opening?
Any potential versions of the Shadow on a broader beam hull?
I know that there are many fans of rotary wing here but I prefer my wings to be attached by more than a jesusnut. |
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12-02-2005, 10:50 AM
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#44 | | YF Moderator
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Shadow We believe it is better and safer for a yachtsmen to have a smaller yacht so he can get into St. Tropez and Portofino with beautiful clear decks and without jets skis, kayaks, and tenders everywhere - keeping his Shadow at anchor with the helicopter, submarine, racing boats, etc., etc on board. And if you empty the hangar, it is the best party room in the world. The Shadow can be a tow boat, a passage finder, and fuel barge and a grocery store. |
It's funny, but the very first thing I thought of when I first saw the huge deck and hangar space on both of your Shadows was "Hey... what a place for a block party!" Set up some lights, a ton of sound, and you've got a party you can take anywhere in the world.  You could even hire bands if you were so inclined... although the neighbors in Port Hercule may not appreciated it.
The use that intrigued me the most, especially in light of the security threads around here recently, was the idea of keeping the heavier, unsightly aspects security on the Shadow instead of the main yacht. This would also facilitate travel into the nicer places of the world, where you can leave the Shadow out of port and avoid hassles with the authorities, and then when travelling to less scrupulous areas, the Shadow would always be close by with as much firepower as the owner sees fit. Quote: |
I participate in the Forum because many people with different perspectives and experiences come up with great ideas and new concepts. It is always good to hear other views and opinions.
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And we're all really cool people too, right? |
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12-02-2005, 10:57 AM
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#45 | | YF Moderator
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by Codger I know that there are many fans of rotary wing here but I prefer my wings to be attached by more than a jesusnut.  |
Codger... why not the best of both worlds? 
I'd say a Shadow would be the ultimate platform for one of the 609s.
I just found this pic of the military version used on water, so if they can do it, so can everyone else.
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