new Yacht Design 2008

Arniev · 03-21-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah-michelle

Name: "Sterling"
LOA: 55 ft / 16,4 m
Design: Jens Lages Incorporated
Year: 2008
highres image: http://www.imagesave.org/open.php?id...ish-Design.jpg

What is your company's website address?

NGD · 03-21-2008, 07:22 PM

I think these designs are a waste of time tbh.

NYCAP123 · 03-21-2008, 09:48 PM

I'm no artist or yacht designer, just an old captain, but these look like the european design that's been hot since the early 90's/ late 80's taken to the max. I wonder if the 40 knot 150gph yachts are still the future or are they becoming the past. I'm hearing rumblings about fuel efficiency, variable and different fuel sources,different propulsion systems, more stability. Things like reverse bows, bulbous bows, different hull designs. More radical thinking like project sigma. This looks like a good artist. It would be interesting to see him/her doing something more radical rather than just expanding on what's become just more of the same. Again, I'm out of my field here so please forgive my ignorance, but I'm from a generation where you could tell a Hattaras from a Broward from 10 miles off. Now everything looks pretty much the same with a few notable exceptions.

sarah-michelle · 03-22-2008, 03:39 AM

these designs are classic designs for a modern generation and they are suitable for the future.
there is no company website

NYCAP123 · 03-22-2008, 10:17 AM

Sarah-Michelle,
I've heard those words many times over the years. They're usually spoken by people whose careers are about to be eclipsed by the up and comers or companies like Trumpy who built wonderful yachts. Classics. I've been as guilty as anyone. Most of what you've drawn here are stretched out Azimuts. The last one is a stretched out Fountain. Good stuff, but by now old school. You've got a good hand. Start by taking an idea that is rediculous and can't possibly work then play with it until you discover something new. Look at the bulbous bow. What nut thought that up, but it works. Look at pod propulsion systems, especiallt IPS turning the pod forward. It's nuts, but wow what a difference. That's the difference between Ray Hunt and John Smith (no offense all you John Smiths). Look to the past for inspiration and wisdom, but look inside yourself for vision. Start with a square block and start whitling until it looks like nothing you've ever seen, then tank test it and refine it. As soon as you recognize it throw it in the garbage and start over. Dare to be great. Good luck.

YachtNews · 03-22-2008, 10:57 AM

The Taylor and Juliet look like a cross between a Sunseeker and a Mangusta, don't you all find? Maybe these were your inspirations Sarah-Michelle.

Marmot · 03-22-2008, 11:22 AM

"Look at the bulbous bow. What nut thought that up ..."

It was a guy by the name of Froude, put into practice by another guy named David Taylor, both about a century ago and neither was a yacht stylist, though Froude did say that yacht design should be a combination of speed and habitibility.

Froude

NYCAP123 · 03-22-2008, 11:31 AM

Marmot,
Any day I learn something new is a good day. Froude. Although I'm terrible with names I'll try to remember that. I hope Sarah-Michelle recognizes that greatness may take a century or 2 to be recognized, but that is what makes someone immortal. The pat on the back today is nice, but not worth much in reality. To have someone bring up your name a century later...now that's something. Thanks for the education Marmot.

vivariva · 03-22-2008, 12:02 PM

Dear Sarah,

I would have to agree with the participants of this forum. You are only concentrating on these yachts' aesthetic value rather than their hydrodynamic characteristics. For example, you could add their underwater profiles in your designs. So far, you have only sketched one with a keel; M/Y Ephelia. Maybe if you could work on one longer with more detail, we would have a clearer picture of your vision.

Are these homework/ training assignments? They seem more suitable for graphic applications like print advertising. If so, there are design forums where you could get them 'proofread' instead of in here.

Regards,
Vr

YachtNews · 03-22-2008, 12:10 PM

I guess Sarah-Michelle is just bent on flooding the thread with her own designs, she doesn't seem to be replying to any of the inquires, questions or queries. I think it would be good if you do instead of having us interacting amongst ourselves. It would be better for the livliness of the thread.

NGD · 03-22-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vivariva

You are only concentrating on these yachts' aesthetic value rather than their hydrodynamic characteristics.

Yeah that's what I think. There is minimal (if any) regard to the practicalities of how they might actually work if they were ever built.

I don't want to criticise too much though. Seeing novel ideas always gets you thinking.

CODOG · 03-23-2008, 09:58 AM

Bottom line is 'she' is participating, and in the appropriate forum section. 'She' may not have the technical know-how nor the practical experience to convince members as to the viability of her 'designs', but she has made her mark. She now has the opportunity to take on board some constructive comments, apply them and refine the designs to be closer to reality, should she choose to do so

NYCAP123 · 03-23-2008, 10:18 AM

Cudos NGD & CODOG,
DK how it is over your way, but with our "No child left behind" act we're turning out a lot of dummies over here. Whenever I see an ounce of tallent combined with some intelligence and a willingness to work I feel it should be guided and encouraged to the max. Saraj-Michelle, if you are still monitoring this thread, you will find some who mock. It helps them to feel superior. Just pitty them and glean from their comments and the supportive ones that which will make you better and help you succeed. Stay with the thread and show us your stuff. Even if we don't agree we learn, as will you. Good luck.

sarah-michelle · 05-13-2008, 02:15 PM

Name: "Naya"
LOA: 200 ft.
Design: Jens Lages Incorporated
Year: 2008

K1W1 · 05-14-2008, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by K1W1

Hi,

I have asked before and am sure I am not the only one on the forums who would like to see more of these vessels that you say are under construction.

Can you please enlighten us as to something that is actually in existence or afloat?

I have made extensive enquiries amongst my peers and no one has heard of the designer you say you are displaying these concepts for. There is a huge difference between plain block concepts and the real work required for naval architecture to a level required to construct something.

I for one would like to see if these designs are designs as such or just some clever drawing with no supporting substance.

I posted this two months ago, do you have anything to show that these are not just vapourware?