[Loren Schweizer]

Yep, NYCAP, you're spoiled allright. From the pics, looks like you had a regulation-sized sink & vanity. More than one manufacturer has given the crew member a folding stainless-steel sink the size and appearance of what Fido drinks out of. That flat panel TV trumps my 20-year old 13" Sony. Plus, I'll bet you had A/C down in your, er, cabin. I was recently on a 63 Viking MY that came up from Venezuela (you know what's coming....) with the crew W/C in the engine room(!). Morning ablutions in a sauna...the mind boggles.

I do have sympathy for the berth size, however-- I've spent quite a few nights camped out in the snow at altitude in a four-season tent and had lots more room to stretch out than you did, though not as many places to hang wet socks from.

[NYCAP123]

What amazes me is that we earn a decent living and generally have fairly nice homes to live in. We're civilized, educated adults with families. What makes people think we're willing to live in worse conditions than a prisoner in the Maracopa County jail? Or is it just that we allow it? When I informed the owner that I won't be available for future overnights he replied "but I used 2 very experienced charter captains in Florida from December to April and they used this crew cabin with no problem". It didn't occur to him the he was now through his 3rd captain in 7 months.Think of any other business losing (3) managers in less than a year. Heck, even the Yankees didn't do that in the Billy Martin days.
P.S. Loren,
The sink was fine. There just wasn't enough room to bend over it with only 3' from the mirror behind the sink (which was waiste high) to the wall behind you. Actually a folding sink would have helped.

[Pascal]

at least the head wasn't a death trap... a boat i was on earlier this year (nice upper/lower bunk crew SR with private head, all finished like the rest of the boat) had an electrical outlet on the face of the vanity, just under the sink, IN THE SHOWER! i guess they thought the shower curtain would be enough and that the GFCI would make it safe... yeah... right! had to pull the thing and disconnect it...

[revdcs]

Originally Posted by Maria B

At least you had jelly bellys.

What's a Jelly Belly?

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by revdcs

What's a Jelly Belly?

Hi,

Something like this.

http://jellybelly-uk.com/

[NYCAP123]

My poor, poor deprived revdcs. They're jelly beans flavored like coffee, bubblegum, banana, blueberry, etc., etc. A little bit of rediculous wonderfulness that brings your tastebuds back to childhood for a moment. I ate them in the hopes that I'd shrink to a size that would fit those quarters. BTW Pascal the GFCI here was also at the sink where the shower curtain wrapped around you to form the shower. Get the feeling that concern for our safety ranks right with concern for our comfort.

[goplay]

NYCAP123, that looks like a Fairline Targa 62!

The 62 I used to have wasn't much better, but at least one didn't have to step down on the toilet.

The Italian boats seem to have the smallest crew quarters for a given sized boat. The Taiwan production boats I have seen, surprisingly, seem to have the largest.

[Codger]

How about it?
Come up with a ratio of square metres per crew member quarters to square metres per guest quarters. Just as an indicator..

[revdcs]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

My poor, poor deprived revdcs. They're jelly beans flavored like coffee, bubblegum, banana, blueberry, etc., etc. A little bit of rediculous wonderfulness that brings your tastebuds back to childhood for a moment. I ate them in the hopes that I'd shrink to a size that would fit those quarters. BTW Pascal the GFCI here was also at the sink where the shower curtain wrapped around you to form the shower. Get the feeling that concern for our safety ranks right with concern for our comfort.

Thanks for enlightening me

A Jelly Belly here in the UK, is something that hangs over the top of ones trousers (or pants in the US) which is probably the result of eating too many Jelly Bellies

[NYCAP123]

Goplay,
Bingo. A 3 stateroom plus laundry or 2 plus crew and laundry. Sorry Fairline that is no 3 plus crew.

Codger,
Simple to figure. (2) methods:
1) Let me stand up and turn around or lay down straight and roll over without hitting a wall or ceiling. Let me also look into the shaving mirror while standing up.

2) Let the owner of a boat spend (3) days living out of a room (including stowing his clothes) before he asks someone else to live there.

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

2) Let the owner of a boat spend (3) days living out of a room (including stowing his clothes) .

Hi,

NYCAP123- for that to work you would have to know some special Owners who stow their own clothes.

[NYCAP123]

There is always method #1.
Actually, I've been pretty lucky over the years. In 20 years I've only run into (3) owners who'd expect someone to actually sleep in quarters like these. Obviously, I didn't take the jobs. I even had one owner of a dinner yacht who insisted that I take the stateroom with the TV for a long transport. (Of course there was no reception after we pulled out of Pt. Everglades god bless her, but her heart was in the right place).
Now, I'm not real picky. I've slept on many a wheelhouse bench and used the old 5 gal. w/c on an LCM and a few others . I just don't want to feel trapped or disrespected.

[PropBet]

If I'm not willing to sleep in it myself, then I don't know that I have the heart to ask a crew member to sleep in it either.

Small is one thing. Sardine can is another.
Although I am a big fan of the Jelly Belly's, I don't think they would have gotten me in there for more than a nickel tour.

[CaptPKilbride]

We call those things that hang over the top of your pants " muffin-tops".

Which are produced by eating too many jelly bellies!

[Maria B]

I thought muffin tops were lateral appendages. I think some of these "cabins" were designed while drinking Alice in wonderland drinks. They may make sense on a plan but scale is not considered too seriously. I'd rather sleep in a hammock.