[JHA]

A real captain lets his mate dock the boat as well.

The (real) captains in this conversation are making themselves quite aparent. The paper license is for the insurance company. It's the experience that will get you home when the fit hits the shan. A captain job is easy - if your an insomniac workaholic. When I got into the (private) boat industry I knew that I knew everything there was to know (oops). I've spent the last six years as a deckhand, mate, engineer, and captain. The most important thing I've learned is that I'll never know everything. But hopefully I have enough experience, and some good people working WITH me so that we as a crew can get the job done. I still work as a deckhand, as an engineer, and as a stew. And no piece of paper can cover all the particulars of that.
Aero - if you ever need crew, I'd be happy to interview. I won't ***** about beds and heads, and I can actually drive these 120' clorox bottles.

[aeronautic1]

Next month I perform my 141st and 142nd delivery from Florida to NEw York. However, I do these trips solo (46 & 57 Ocean). But, if I get a vessel 60' or larger, I will be PMing you for line thrower, wheel watch, sandwich maker and yes, docking the boat. Thanks for your offer.

[CBKHI]

As a former Coastie I would think you would know better than to break the law. ! Solo !!! ======= stupid and illegal. I can only hope for your sake that nothing happens. Nav rules state that you must have a lookout who's only job is just that, to be a lookout. The lookout can perform no other duty while serving as a lookout Driving, navigating, plotting a fix or engine room checks ,all are other duties .140 trips is impressive but you only get to be a cowboy once when the s@*t hits the fan. Come on your smarter than this!!!! Saving the owner is doing yourself a great injustace and is not safe(read legal)

[aeronautic1]

Who says that I am NOT standing proper watch. I will have you know that I subscribe to the CFR Part 41 regs that stipulate no more than 12 hours duty time in a 24 hour period. Typically, my runs are 9-10 hours per day. You must be like be 75 years old, or you boat is. With today's modern fleet, all of your navigation is just a finger tip away. So, what you are saying is that if someone were to take their boat our fishing for the day, by themselves, that they would be unsafe or illegal? And just to preempt your next question/comment; if I have to take a leak, I shoot it from the flybridge. Anything else and I pull the throttles back, clutchs into idle and then the vessel is "not under command." Doesn't mean that it is not being watched after. You know, it's all about preparation. Everything you need for the day's travel, you put it on the bridge. What about flying. Guys fly solo all the time. Does that mean that they are flying illegal/unsafe? Injustice has an "i" in it. Oh, and autopilot does the driving which means I am standing a lookout watch.

[JHA]

Aero

Isn't flying solo part of the requirement to get a pilot license?
....Only one question.when heading to sea - do you plot on paper as well, or do you rely solely on electronics for your nav.? I'm a relatively young "marine chauffeur" but I won't run without paper charts. And fixes are done EVERY hour. No Excuses.
P.S. have you flown the citation x ? I would kill for a few hours.... even in the right seat.

[aeronautic1]

I always carry paper charts plus my own GPS, hand bearing compass and chronograph. After being in the delivery business 17 of my 30 years, I have ammassed quite an impressive library of charts and publications at home. However, to get to New York, leave Port Everglades, turn left at the PE bouy and keep land on your left (port). Eventually you will reach New York.

You are correct about soloing before getting your pilots license. Only aicraft that weight 12,500 pounds or more, or if in the ops spec issued by the FAA, then two pilots are required up front. All of the jets I fly are 12.5<. Citation X is the fast thing in the air today, next to military that is. However, 6 miles a minute @ 41,000 is just fine with me.

[JHA]

heh heh heh... and for going to the Med. make your compass read 090 and put the sticks down.
I've gotta do mach.8@60k ft. before I die.... at least I have plenty of time... I hope.

[aeronautic1]

Took at Lear 31A to FL530 once. Could see the curvature of the earth from there. Very high!!! Later gator

[CBKHI]

First of all if you want to talk aero go to a aero site not a yacht forum. If you read what the regs state ,"Iron Mike " is not a crewmember. The regs also state that you must maintain a proper plot, electronic ploters do not mean didly. These plots must be done on paper. If you are the only one onboard, stop to take a fix and plot it, who is the lookout?! The guy who goes out fishing is not taking "consideration" (read pay), this is why we as captains must be lisc. We are held to a higher standard. The only reason I posted about this is that there is a lot of new captains who read this forum and we dont need to give them the wrong idea. If you , God forbid have a health problem offshore, who gets on the radio to call for help? If the auto pilot is driving I guess you would go as far north as you could given the fuel range for fuel on hand. The list of what ifs could fill many pages.As for your remarks about age of vessel and myself you couldnt be further from reality!

[CBKHI]

The definition as stated in the nav rules for "not under command" is as follows. A vessel which through some exceptional circumstance is unable to maneuver as required by these Rules and is therfore unable to keep out of the way of another vessel.I dont know but to me a trip to the head or the engine room doesn't sound exceptional.

[aeronautic1]

Yeah, there is a town without a pulse. Blah Blah Blah. Look, if I am on delivery solo, I am not carrying passengers for hire. The vessel is uninspected, non-commerical vessel so most of those regs are uneccessary and don't apply. Remember, you do not need a license to deliver yachts. As a matter of fact, we had a CG boarding during seatrial and the Nautical Nazis asked me for my license. I informed them that I was not carrying passengers for hire, just crew required for the mission at hand and they went the other way. As far as aero and nautical, well one just goes lower and slower, the math is all the same, huh? But thank you for your input. My business plan is sound and I am VERY busy.

[CBKHI]

The passengers are not the only reason why you need the lisc. it is because you are recieving pay! Asd I stated in an earlier post its all fine till the stuff hits the fan and you are being brought up in front of a Coast Guard board of inq.I have been on the Cg sid eof mor than a few of them and would not wish my enimie on the other side ,it is brutal

[CBKHI]

Wow I was typing tooo fast !, like airplane speed! that last post looks really badddd!!!!!

CBKHI, While I agree with some of the stuff that you have to say , and would never want to do solo deleveries myself, GET OVER IT!! I know who aeronuatic is, and with the exception of not knowing when to and not to cat call chicks over the hailer, he is a very solid captain. Go back to your Coast Guard buddies and worry about how easy you guys make it to get licenses, and quit trying to police the good captains that are out there! You guys all worry about the same thing....THE WRONG THING!!

[aeronautic1]

Actually, haven't seen an operational hailer in some time. And if I do turn one on, it's to test the fog, anchor and aground signals. I would never use it to cat call the mermaids. But Scott, you are right. This is just so much bloviating. If our esteemed retired CG officer's notion is correcrt, then EVERY sportfishing charter boat out there is operating illegally. Ever watch the Fisher Island Ferry? One guy on the bridge, everyone else to other than look out duties. But then there will always by armchair sailors reading from the gospel while I am right now packing my bag and headed for St. Augustine to bring back to NPB a 34 Wellcraft. Adios, marineros.