[Norseman]

if you had helped your neighbor taking that beautiful sailboat to the bahamas, you would have had more days for your renewal

Ha-ha, you of course are correct Sir, but there was not enough money printed to for me to take that piece of piece of xxxx down the river and across the Gulfstream..Allah knows I was offered good money to do it, but I could not look myself in the mirror the next morning if I took it..

Unfortunately,this is not something that is just confined to Sth Florida at the moment.

Lean times all over it..Hell of a good time to buy stuff instead. Fire sale at condos behind Fort Lauderdale Marine Center up the New River...These condos sold for $200K 3 years ago, now ya can get one for $50K..
http://www.marinaoakscondos.com/
Unbelivable and good investment I hope..Putting my money where my mouth is.

[NYCAP123]

Allah knows I was offered good money to do it,

Wait a minute Norseman. How much of a cut were you planning to take or did you figure you'd collect the whole thing after the delivery crew died?

The price for the delivery is about $1200.00 divided between Captain and Mate and includes air fare back to FLL.

And now your selling condos. Hmmmmm.

[Norseman]

Wait a minute Norseman. How much of a cut were you planning to take or did you figure you'd collect the whole thing after the delivery crew died?

Aye, no cut to me..I was just glad to get rid of the boat..

Forgot the details, but I think there was more money involved than $1,200.00
The mate got $600, and the skipper more than that, plus money for airfare.

And now your selling condos. Hmmmmm

Wrong again Sherlock, not selling condos, just informing the esteemed readership on these pages of an oportunity..

Contact any realtor for the MSL listing on those condos..The cheap units I am talking about are all forclosures and some short-sales..Some of those are listed at $45K. There is about 140 available that the owners walked away from after the bubble burst..Some Europeans are buying for investment, picking up 2 and 3 at the time.

Shouldn't you be out on the water driving boats now instead of sitting in front of the 'puter and undoubtedly surfing web pages of questionable moral character.?

[NYCAP123]

Did a short job yesterday and have a run on Friday. Just waiting for season to start (If it does). Who knows, we all may be hustling condos in a few weeks.

[Norseman]

Who knows, we all may be hustling condos in a few weeks.

Not sure there is any money in selling condos or anything else these days.
My realtor has not had a closing in months.

The beauty of a chaep condo is renting it out, then having a positive cash flow of $400 to $500 per month as the mortgage rates are low and the purchase price is low...Then when the economy swings around, real estate prices should increase and one could sell with a tidy profit.

That is the theory anyway...Your milage may vary..

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by Norseman

Not sure there is any money in selling condos or anything else these days.
My realtor has not had a closing in months.

The beauty of a chaep condo is renting it out, then having a positive cash flow of $400 to $500 per month as the mortgage rates are low and the purchase price is low...Then when the economy swings around, real estate prices should increase and one could sell with a tidy profit.

That is the theory anyway...Your milage may vary..

Of course that assumes that your tenant has a job AND pays his rent instead of just squatting while he steals your plumbing and doors.

[Norseman]

Of course that assumes that your tenant has a job AND pays his rent instead of just squatting while he steals your plumbing and doors.
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Yeah, some screening is in order.

This place is in my neigborhood so if anybody is late on rent I can just go over and rough 'em up little..I am a big fat ugly guy with a shaved head and a foul mouth, usually I get respect..

Quite a few of the tenants over there a students at the Art Institute, no job but rent is coming in on time, thanks Mom and Dad..

[Norseman]

Speaking of not paying rent.

I had a guy renting dock space from me for his Morgan 36 sailboat.
One day he decided not to pay rent.

After a week or two when I was starting to get angry I called him up and said loud and clear that if he did not send a check with Fed Ex the same day for the missing dock rent plus $50.00 extra for "late fee" I was going to start ripping pieces of his fxxxxx boat and sell the fxxxx pieces on ebay to cover the rent.

Next day I had the Fed Ex envelope with the rent plus the extra $50.00..

[Norseman]

Found the answer to my own question:

MPT http://www.mptusa.com/ in Fort Lauderdale offers a one-day
refresher course called: Renewal Without Sea Time. Refresher Course or Test.
The one-day gig is $195.00

OR one can take the test with no course.

The next course is April 22...

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by Norseman

Found the answer to my own question:

MPT http://www.mptusa.com/ in Fort Lauderdale offers a one-day
refresher course called: Renewal Without Sea Time. Refresher Course or Test.
The one-day gig is $195.00

OR one can take the test with no course.

The next course is April 22...

Hi,

Does that include all Course Material and Lunch? :-)

How many times in a row can one renew without any actual sea time just doing these type of courses?

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by K1W1

Hi,

Does that include all Course Material and Lunch? :-)

How many times in a row can one renew without any actual sea time just doing these type of courses?

When did this retesting alternative start? What I don't get is that to get a license you have to test AND have sea time. Now the CG seems to be saying that experience doesn't matter as long as you know how to study for a test. Could they actually believe this? I'm picturing a guy stepping up to the helm of a 100 ft. boat with paying passengers staking their lives on him and he not having set foot on a boat in 20 years.

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

When did this retesting alternative start? What I don't get is that to get a license you have to test AND have sea time. Now the CG seems to be saying that experience doesn't matter as long as you know how to study for a test. Could they actually believe this? I'm picturing a guy stepping up to the helm of a 100 ft. boat with paying passengers staking their lives on him and he not having set foot on a boat in 20 years.

Hi,

NYCAP- We are on the same page here, this is exactly what I was wondering.

[Capt J]

Originally Posted by K1W1

Hi,

NYCAP- We are on the same page here, this is exactly what I was wondering.

I agree, however I think you can only test instead of seatime on up to a 100 ton license. After that you must have the seatime. I also think you can test instead of seatime only once. But again, I'm not sure. Although having to take the test again is good too, because I know of some that have been captain's for many years and working as a captain and have forgotten half of the rules and regs they should know.

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by Capt J

I agree, however I think you can only test instead of seatime on up to a 100 ton license. After that you must have the seatime. I also think you can test instead of seatime only once. But again, I'm not sure. Although having to take the test again is good too, because I know of some that have been captain's for many years and working as a captain and have forgotten half of the rules and regs they should know.

A 100 tonner can kill a lot of people and break a lot of property. I'm at least glad (if you're right) that it can only be done once. That means we have to step on a boat at least every 10 years. As for retesting, I'll bet there are a number of things I couldn't tell you that I knew when I tested, like the minimum height of a masthead light, but I'm guessing it's really more important to know to make sure it's working and be able to fix it if it's not. Also, a lot of people are bad at tests, especially those that have been out of school for 20 years. Personally, I'd rather keep their experience on the water rather than the guy who steps on board once every 10 years. But heh, I'm one of those 20 year guys so I might be a bit biased.

[Norseman]

Hi,

Does that include all Course Material and Lunch? :-)

Don't think Lunch is included...No free Lunch remember..?

(Since we are being funny here: Did ya know they found a new use for sheep in New Zealand?....Wool.. )

Uh, back on track:

I belive there is a test involved in the 1-day refresher course, but it will be open book.
I asked the school if I should study before the course, but they said no.

(Don't have to be prepared.. )

As for renewing without setting foot on a boat?
Yeah, that does not sound right, but uh, in case somebody is pointing a finger in my direction: I have done quite a bit of sailing and local deliveries here in Fort Lauderdale and the Bahamas, just not enough to come close to the 360 days.

I renewed present license 5 years ago using Sea Time because I was actually working as a Yacht Captain for a while, running a 70 fot Stink Potter in the local area.

(That was too much work however, my kind of boating involves sitting for anchor in the Bahamas drinking beer.. )