[dbltime]

4/10/2004-1991 70 Hatteras cockpit motor yacht needs full time captain experienced in Hatteras product with ability and desire to complete routine maintenance. Boat is currently in the Bahamas and due to head for Annapolis in 2 weeks. Winters in outh Florida and Summers in Annapolis, cruise the chesapeake with a trip North mid summer. Owners considering larger MY with charter potential. Owners are very reasonable people that respect a well kept boat and willing to pay. Great gig for the right person or team. Former Captain recently vanished

Call Bill Walczak for immediate consideration cell 410-353-4712

[dbltime]

position still open (4-20)

Captain or captain and mate team

hatteras experience

east coast/bahamas cruising experience

must have verifiable track record as a live aboard captain on similar vessel. 2 years or more working for the same owner

This is a nice boat, start salary $60-$70K (capt only) depending on maintenance skills and experience

I have a stack of resumes but no one that fits yet.

By the time I find a captain we will have a bigger boat!

[trouty]

get me a green card or should I sneak in with a group of haitian refugees driving a green pickup truck across from Cuba?

Maybe you'll have to lower your sights or raise the salary cap doubletime - I'd listen to, or talk to you, for 20% of that figure but to take on that responsibility for the sheckles on offer after the last guy done a runner sounds mighty risky to me....

Whats the deal with the owners? Does the wife act like Phyllis Diller on a bad hair day or something?

Good captains don't run from 70ft Hatts unless theres a good rerason - C'mon fess up - whats the real deal?

You know if you can't find the guy you want theres no shame in developing someone below the benchline - who knows maybe the owners wil get someone gratefull for the opportunity who will reward them with loyalty, and stick around instead of doing a runner!.

Lots of people want to buy the right man - some people go to the trouble of training their own. Just throwing large amounts of $ boating problems don't always just make them magically dissapear, just ask Dennis Conner, after he ran into Benny Lexcens winged keel!

Most salts worth a rum ration wouldn't waste their time responding to that selection criteria - I know I wouldn't!

Good Luck

[dbltime]

Plenty of talent out there who want to run a 125'+ tri deck. Hatteras 70 is drawing people with boating experience and a license but little to no full time experience as a Captain. I wish the salary we are offering was the problem. Easy fix.

The Captain who walked off the boat in the Bahamas had 2 very legitimate reasons. Alcohol and a new women pal. Those ingrediants were just enough to bring out his true colors.

We have hired a new Captain. Plenty of experience and as professional and mild mannered as they come. Hope it works out long term.

[trouty]

for them all Dbltime...

Theres a heck of a lot to be said for experience...and theres a heck of a lot to be said for qualifications as well.

Then again sometimes even those two combined aint enough - throw in woman and alcohol (a volatile mix at the best of times - bout as touchy as deisel and urea...anpho).

So where do you find the solid, reliable, family guy with experience, qualifications, sober, whose easy to get along with but firm yet calm in an emergency?

Usually those sorts have already made their own way in life and arent looking to be employed by someone else to manage their toys.

Heres someone 63 years old with a lifetimes experience at sea and a Masters IV (200 Miles 200 tonnes) license who could be in the market for a position.

GWN News reports a boating fatality today at Bunkers bay just out of Busselton.

A ~60ft Alloy Cray Boat "Angela" hit a 15 ft fibreglass recreational boat at anchor fishing off Bunkers bay containing two men and a 5 year old boy.

The Glass recreational boat was cut in half - it's occupants jumped into the water before the collision but the 5 year old failed to resurface.
Best I know his body hadn't been recovered by newstime tonight - but there is speculation the lad was either hit while in the water bye the bow of the cray boat or one or both of it's props.

Apparently the 3 surviving occupants and the deckhand from crayboat were ALL taken to Busselton Hospital for treatment of injuries...(punchup on board after they were pulled from the water???..who knows!.).

Either way it's a bloody tragedy that could hapen to ANY recreational boater.

News report said the police had seized the cray boat as "evidence".

I could be wrong, but if memory serves this could (possibly?) be the same cray boat that lost a deckhand overboard off cape Naturalist 2 years back with his leg tangled in a pot rope.... whether it is the same boat or not I'm not 100% sure, but the name rings a bell in my dim dark memory cells somewhere.....and even if it is - whether it's the same skipper at the helm again I have no idea.

I guess if theres possibly "anything to be learnt" from the episode it might be....that while you would expect at anchor that any other vessel should give you a wide berth, there ARE times on crayboats when the skippers possibly not actually at the helm - like while doing tasks on deck to assist his deckie - like basketting up & guaging the catch on the way back in to shore while the boats on autopilot... (thats what it sounded like to me).

If the crayboat was on autopilot maybe he was expecting his radar to warn him of any radar return signals (from boats in the cray boats path) and maybe the fibreglass recreational vessel has a very low radar signature which doesn't reflect well on radar etc etc.
(Do any fibreglass boat owners here have metallic radar reflectors affixed the superstructure of their boats?.. mightn't be such a bad idea - they are cheap small and easily installed!).

Either way - the Cray boat skipper will be found PARTLY to blame (not 100% more likely 60%...maritime laws a coonazzed thing when it comes to collisions at sea, both skippers have equal responsibility to avoid a collision, and maintain an adequate watch...even when at anchor) so - we may just see the Father of the deceased boy held partly culpable for the tragic loss of his sons life.

I guess the thing is probably when the skipper of the recreational vessel saw a cray boat headed in his direction he could perhaps have done more to avoid a potential collision, like starting his engine - if he had even the ability to motor in a circle on the length of anchor rope might be enough to avoid the collision at the last minute...of course he should also have tried hailing theboat on his two way etc etc etc - but who thinks of these things?, we all just assume the cray boat skippers a professional and will change course - until the time comes when he doesn't one day - which could be your last.

No doubt we will hear more about this in the press in ensuing days / weeks / years etc once the coroners inquiry is over.

Either way - recreational boat owners shouldn't wait that long to try and learn some perhaps valuable lessons from the tragedy in the meantime.

What does this say for compulsory boat driving licenses?? The cray boat skipper at minimum should have held a Masters V qualification for that vessel, and given it's size and worth, possibly one would expect a more advanced Masters IV Qualification.

Didn't do the kid much good, did it !- and one is I guess entitled to rightfully question what good compulsory boat licenses for rec anglers will achieve if even experienced pro's can stuff up so badly.

Then again if the Rec Boat skipper was licensed - might he have done something different earlier to help avoid the collision with a bit more advanced knowledge?

Lots to possibly be learnt from this for pro and recreational boat operator alike I'd wager - after all we all have to share the same waters and fish when it comes down to it.

Tragic is the only description that springs to my mind.

and this from todays Sunday times local press..

Boy dies in boat collision
By JESSICA STRUTT
02may04
A FIVE-YEAR-OLD boy died yesterday when a crayboat and a smaller boat collided off Dunsborough, 250km south of Perth.

The tragedy occurred about 1km northeast of Bunker Bay at 10.50am when the 17m commercial crayfishing boat and the 5m recreational vessel hit. The smaller craft sank in 20m of water.

A deckhand on the crayboat is believed to have jumped into the water to try to save the boy but he was already dead.

South-West District Superintendent John McRoberts said the boy's body had been recovered but the cause of death was still unclear.

The boy was on a family fishing trip.

Three adults, including the boy's father and uncle, were taken to Busselton Hospital and treated for shock and other injuries.

A deckhand on the crayboat, which was manned by two crew and a skipper, was taken to hospital with a broken collarbone.

After the accident the crayboat motored to the Quindalup professional boat ramp, a few kilometres southeast of the Dunsborough townsite, where police interviewed those on board.

The crayboat later moored off Quindalup Beach and was under police guard.

Dunsborough police were on the scene soon after the accident and water police and divers from Fremantle Water Police were travelling to Dunsborough to try to recover the sunken launch yesterday afternoon.

"They will not attempt the salvage operation until Sunday morning . . . we will guard it overnight," Supt McRoberts said.

It was unclear what water conditions were like at the time of the accident.

"It's fine at the moment but I don't know if there were any weather conditions that contributed," he said.

The families aboard the recreational craft were believed to be from Australind and Collie.

and This from Tomorrows daily Newspaper!.

Cray pledge after boy's death

ELOISE DORTCH

The State Government and the crayfishing industry pledged yesterday to prevent a repeat of an accident in which a five-year-old boy died in a collision between a crayboat and a runabout on Saturday.

Peter Jacob Mitchell, of Busselton, known to his family as Jack, was killed when the 17m Andrea, skippered by a 63-year-old experienced fisherman, hit the 5m fibreglass runabout 1km north-east of Bunker Bay, near Dunsborough.

The accident occurred at 10.50am in sunny, calm conditions.

The skipper, from Perth but based at Quindalup, is to be interviewed by South-West detectives today.

Supt John McRoberts said the drivers of both boats had not been drinking.

In the runabout with Peter were his father, an uncle from Collie and the boat's owner, a family friend from Australind.

The crayboat crew picked up the three men and the boy from the sea and headed for the shore. But the Andrea's engine seized and another boat was used to take them to shore.

Last night, Peter's mother said: "Little Jack has touched so many people in the community.

"We'd like to thank the family and friends that have assisted us at this time.

"He died catching salmon with his dad. He was having such a good time - it was a joy to him."

The three men, all treated for injuries on Saturday, are believed to have jumped out of the runabout moments before the collision.

The runabout owner was readmitted to hospital yesterday for treatment of a punctured lung.

Western Rock Lobster Council executive director Steven Gill said he had spoken to the family of the crayboat skipper. "It's a terrible tragedy," he said.

"The industry will work with the authorities to assist in any way we can."

Fisheries Minister Kim Chance said the accident was devastating for the industry and the Government. They would do anything they could to prevent a similar accident.

Mr Chance met representatives from Augusta-Margaret River Shire and the Conservation Council on April 23 to discuss safety concerns about cray fishermen operating in the capes region.

Of 590 licensed cray fishermen in WA, 290 are licensed to operate between Cape Leeuwin at Augusta and Jurien Bay. Up to 50 have been reported fishing between Cape Naturaliste and Cape Leeuwin.

There are sometimes Doubletime when even experience AND qualifications don't cut the mustard, and this looks like one of them...best part of a lifetime at sea 250 days a year for likely 45 - 50 years...

If my memory serves - this is likely the same vessel & skipper who lost his deckhand overboard two years ago with his leg tangled in a pot rope!

Bad luck just seems to follow him around.

If no one told you about his past exploits - he'd a likely fitted your selection criteria to a "T".

possibly theres a message in there somewhere!

Cheers!

[dbltime]

I am a boat salesman on the east coast of the USA. I sell mostly 40-80' cruising powerboats but once in a while step it up to the 100+. I have a customer who owns a large proper steel MY that I will not detail. He pays his Captain $130,000. a year, free car, medical and dental. He wants to sell his boat but is afraid his Captain will quit if he finds out that the boat is for sale (even though the sale could take years). I decided to meet the Captain and put the cards on the table as they say. This man is "deal" at twice that salary. Amazing to find a Captain who has engineering and mechanical skills combined with the energy to make the repairs or updates. My advise was find a new boat suitable to the Captain and then we will sell the old boat.

The Captain we hired for the Hatteras has a 50% chance of working out. He has hit the ground walking instead of running. So far it is all about him and I have seen very little effort to bring "his" boat into proper shape after 1200 miles at sea. Also as time moves on we have found several resume' inaccuracies. Hopefully he can do the job and the background will not matter.

[trouty]

In a former life, I spent the best part of what seemed like a lifetime recruiting folk for 2 large govt departments (and firing em again when it didn't work out!) and over the years & thousands employed, developed a somewhat successful 'successional planning' approach to recruiting, which you might find works out OK for you.

Fell free to adopt any or all parts of it, if you desire.

As you know with EEO (equal employment opportunity / anti discrimination) laws these days theres basically little or no opportunity to 'try before you buy' when emloying folks..

So I worked it this way.

When I interviewed folks for a job - I'd keep a close eye on my second best applicant. Sometimes I'd re interview the second best and best applicants - a 2nd time...JUST to get a better look at number two - with a view to whether I could develop that person into the employee I was likely to need next.

I'd look closely at trying to identify and quantify their strengths and particularly their weaknesses.

Then - after the number one guy was employed - I'd contact number two and convince then to come in if possible for temp work, relief work, short term contract work and so on, so I could get a better look at them. While I had them there I'd take the opportunity to train them in the area's they interviewed weakly in and bolster any weak area's in their resume's with actual coal face experience.

Come next time that job was vacant - I already knew who I wanted for my applicant and the selection criteria was invariably written to suit that applicant...

I made a habit of doing this at every interview process and NEVER had to 'buy blind' off the street - I always KNEW who my next selection was going to be before the job placement advertisement was ever called.

For those "joining the job hunting Cues' who find that dismaying, my advice is "dont!". Be prepared to not get that first second or third job you applied for but recognise that - by getting to the interview - you're becomming a 'known quantity' and that eventually you'll get your turn and be asked to temp, fill in or conract for a short duratation position and so on. Take up the offers and you'll soon find yourself being trained, developed etc and with a full time job you always wanted. It won't happen overnight and you'll be able to wallpaper one wall of your house with rejections from unsuccessfull applications - but thats just how the games played these days.

I used to talk to a lot of other large volume recruiters socially and thru sports etc - we always swapped names of likely lads that we'd interviewed who might be suited to each others various job needs, so we knew who to be on the lookout for an application from.

Occasioanlly if I couldn't place someone who interviewed really well - but I knew someone else was looking - I'd contact the unsuccessful applicant after the process was over and they'd got their rejection notice and suggest they might like to think about applying with xyz who i'd heard were recruiting. Usually - this always meant I'd already put in a good word for them and the other agency were already looking forward to recieving an application from them, but the unwritten rules of the game say you can never actually SAY that they have the inside running, it ALWAYS has to come down to the applicant having the intestinal fortitude to pick emselves up by the bootstraps, and have another go after having just been rejected.

On rare occasions people who you went to these lengths for would spit in your face out of dissapointment (hurt) at missing out on the initial job they applied for. Sometimes even people I had in line for successional planning action accidentally shot themselves in the foot by being rude about a second call offering what they took to be a "consolation prize" offer of temping or holiday relief work when they'd been an applicant for full time work.

Most recruiters have been there and experienced that (the let down) so we are pretty forgiving folks...when it comes to unsuccessful applicants taking out their frustrations / disspointments when a second opportunity comes knocking.

Anyway - just a little insight for what it's worth to anyone on either side of the emloyment situation (recruiter / applicant). Hope it helps.

Cheers!

[JHA]

Dbl - do you check your PMs?

[dbltime]

Oh geez... I have PM's did not realize. I thought you would get e mails notifying you about PM's. Sorry all... will get on them.

Bill Walczak 410-353-4712

[YachtForums]

Bill,

You can select to recieve and be electronically notified of PM's from your User Control Panel.

Carl

[kevlar12]

Thanks for the invite to use this site Carl,

Excuse me if I bugger it up at first, Threads and PM's and Tags ??? I must be a bit slow!
Anyway it looks like good chatter.

Does anyone know Shore Sail Int. ? I can't find a web site.


Piper

[pwalsh9012]

Originally Posted by kevlar12

Thanks for the invite to use this site Carl,

Excuse me if I bugger it up at first, Threads and PM's and Tags ??? I must be a bit slow!
Anyway it looks like good chatter.

Does anyone know Shore Sail Int. ? I can't find a web site.


Piper

Dear Kevlar12,
I was contacted by Shore Sail Int asking me to submit CV for possible captain's vacancy, but I found no trace of a website.

Paul W. Commercial Yachtmaster (Power).

[kevlar12]

Thanks Paul,

Same with me... They are American, but where I don't know.
I will e-mail them again...

Piper

[CaptHenry]

Originally Posted by dbltime

4/10/2004-1991 70 Hatteras cockpit motor yacht needs full time captain experienced in Hatteras product with ability and desire to complete routine maintenance. Boat is currently in the Bahamas and due to head for Annapolis in 2 weeks. Winters in outh Florida and Summers in Annapolis, cruise the chesapeake with a trip North mid summer. Owners considering larger MY with charter potential. Owners are very reasonable people that respect a well kept boat and willing to pay. Great gig for the right person or team. Former Captain recently vanished

Call Bill Walczak for immediate consideration cell 410-353-4712

I have Canadain STCW 95 Master 3000 GT or Tug
Interested in the Captain position
I live in Vancouver BC Canada
for more info: www.seadelivery.net

Henry Mikolajczyk

[CaptHenry]

Captain for Hire www.seadelivery.net
STCW II/2, 3000 ton or Tug MOT Canada
with 30 years on Sea. Tugs, Ships, Yachts, Fishing
in NE & NW Pacific BC, Alaska to Panama & Worldwide.
1 604.820.6744, Cell 1 604-302.9766
Vancouver BC, Canada

Capt. Henry Mikolajzyk