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11-24-2005, 07:29 PM
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#91 | | Senior Member
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Great find Kevin, i think even i'd offer to mow the lawn if we had one of those |
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12-15-2005, 03:29 PM
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#92 | | YF Moderator
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The New (old) Wally:
I thought this had been mentioned here already... but I was a bit off, Lars mentioned it in the "winter" thread. Wally is going old-school!  I'm not entirely sure I like it... but I definitely applaud them for once again doing something comlpetely out of the blue. Quote:
The Pilgrim project is a 200-foot (60.80-meter) yacht uniquely combining the classic lines with the latest technologies to reduce displacement, improve performance and simplify maintenance and manoeuvring.
Pilgrim was one of the most extraordinary designs ever made for the America’s Cup and the first classic yacht ever designed with a fin keel, spade rudder and bow rudder.
The design dates from 1893!
The starting point of this breakthrough project was to develop a yacht to the likes of William Fife and Nathanael Herreshoff: would have they been alive today, they would have surely used the new technologies in weight savings, reduction in maintenance and reduced crew. To achieve this challenging goal, a highly specialised design team was set up, that included Wally, Hoek Design and Soto Acebal Naval Architecture. 
The Pilgrim project comes in different versions that vary for the rig configuration (ketch, sloop and schooner), and the hull construction technology (aluminium, advanced composites). These options have been deeply evaluated and tested along with different appendages (lifting keel with trim tab, canting keel, and Alberto Calderon’s Canting Ballast Twin Foil) to find the best performing configuration.
The analysis showed that the sloop rigged version is the fastest in almost all conditions, the advanced composite construction gives a considerable edge compared to aluminium, and that the tandem keel canting fore and aft (CBTF) is the best compromise of draft and performance for this project. 
The sail handling systems developed by Wally simplify manoeuvring and enhance safety, while dramatically reducing the required crew to only eight-nine people.
A fixed bowsprit serves to take the load of the forestay well forward of the stemhead and to tack the Code 0 sails. 
The deck layout is characterised by two deckhouses, perfectly integrated into the style of the project: they combine classic lines with contemporary materials such as tinted glass. The roof of both deckhouses can be push-button risen by 30 cm to get fresh air ventilation inside. 
The owners’ suite includes the aft deckhouse with a separate cockpit: a sort of yacht in the yacht to enjoy the onboard life in absolute privacy. It is a continuation of the owner’s suite featuring a relaxing area with a 360-degree view and accessing the owner’s separate cockpit, while the forward main deckhouse encloses the dining and lounge areas, with the engine room underneath. Two tenders can be stored on deck, in dedicated recesses: one is to port of the mast (sloop) or the main mast (ketch), and one is in the forward end. The forward recess transforms into a jacuzzi when the tender is launched. The deck is simple and features the high bulwark like the Wally 143 and Wally 130 currently under construction, while the social cockpit has free standing furniture recalling the latest Wally designs.   | |
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12-16-2005, 10:29 AM
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#93 | | Registered User
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would be an idea not to use the angled roofs of the deckhouses, so they could lower the whole deckhouses into the hull during sailing and raise them when in harbor or in bad weather; better looking too.
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01-23-2006, 10:42 AM
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#94 | | YF Moderator
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How cool are these ads? I'd prolly fall over in shock if I ever saw something like this around Montreal. |
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01-23-2006, 11:04 AM
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#95 | | Senior Member
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Huh? Gotta wonder what percentage of the people in the cars driving down that road could ever afford a Wally?
Kelly
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01-23-2006, 11:28 AM
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#96 | | YF Moderator
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Well the BMW driver could probably afford the skis.
Mind you, those ads were put up in Turin, Italy, so with the Olympics nearly upon the city I'd imagine there are some wealthy people in and around town.
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01-23-2006, 12:01 PM
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#97 | | YF Wisdom Dept.
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by KCook Huh? Gotta wonder what percentage of the people in the cars driving down that road could ever afford a Wally?
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Doesn't really matter. For those people that do have specific goals in mind an advert like that just might divert the goal towards ownership of a Wally product. Perhaps not a single potential current customer saw one of those adverts but who knows how many 5 to 10 years down the road.
Memorable images work!
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01-23-2006, 01:20 PM
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#98 | | Senior Member
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Fair enuf. But I still wonder how many of those drivers will be able to swing a Wally, even 10 years down the road.
Kelly
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01-24-2006, 06:24 AM
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#99 | | Registered User
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I don't think they are looking for the buyers for Wally 118. But you have to admit that seeing manufacture of the skis produces the futuristic yacht as well is preety cool, especially if you ski in popular places in the Alpes. |
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02-19-2006, 07:46 AM
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#100 | | Senior Member
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More news from Wally.
A little confused about that last paragraph, are they saying that 47.5 and 45 knots are the 70fters top speed, or just that is as fast as it's gone so far on an undisclosed amount of throttle?
New colour is growing on me. http://www.wally.com/jumpNews.asp?id...d=1&idNews=410
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02-19-2006, 08:22 AM
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#101 | | YF Moderator
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The speed is the top speed at different loads at the first trials. Fast enough for me.
I also noticed that they have now improved the 90-foot design by chopping off the high forward part of the superstructure. Also softened some sharp angles. Good move to make a nice concept into a nice design I think... |
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02-19-2006, 11:50 AM
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#102 | | Registered User
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Nice- I am currently involved with a live project redesigning the interior of the princess flybridge 67- for the charter industry. Any information on what the needs of the user are- and how i could adapt the layout to incorporate these would be much appreciated.
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02-19-2006, 12:04 PM
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#103 | | YF Moderator
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Hi Andy,
This is not the right place (thread) to discuss this, but there are a few things to consider.
The crew is often more important than the yacht, why you should look after that the crew areas are sufficient, or you will not get the better guys to stay.
Having a less exposed galley may also be good.
Guest cabins with flexiblity is useful. Meaning a cabin that has a queen/twinbed solution and sometimes also a bunk bed is good for certain charter guests.
Besides this, making the yacht too special will make her resale value less good...
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02-19-2006, 01:18 PM
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#104 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by AMG The speed is the top speed at different loads at the first trials. Fast enough for me.
I also noticed that they have now improved the 90-foot design by chopping off the high forward part of the superstructure. Also softened some sharp angles. Good move to make a nice concept into a nice design I think...  |
Im trying hard to find any nice lines in this design, the Wally 118 was innovative and fresh with edgy lines , will for sure be a future classic. But this...looks like they do not exactly now which foot they want to stay on. 
The soft or the edgy one?
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02-19-2006, 01:55 PM
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#105 | | YF Moderator
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I think this is a realistic development from the 118´. They can not build yachts that doesn´t sell. This is a yacht I could think of having myself, the 118´I prefer somebody else to have...
And compared to 99 percent of the yacht market, this is edgy enough... |
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