[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by VikHatBer

Of course you pick the dirtiest place on Earth to contradict me... nice.

Actually, the Hudson is a very beautiful place to cruise... AND SWIM...TODAY (although it's a bit cold for my tastes). BTW, Are you familiar with New Bedord and it's whaling history. Ever wonder why it was such a whaling center. It was because the whales were bountiful just off the coast. Remember, that once these "beasts" are gone they are gone forever and all lifeforms on this planet are interconnected. And unfortunately whales DO like boats. They were just saying this morning on MSNBC that we expect more species to go into extinction this century than ever before. Can this possibly be good. As for:

Don't even get me started on Manatees. They are non-native to South Florida's waterways - something that the hippie environmentalist lobby always conveniently forgets to mention.

Ask the Florida tourism board how they feel about them. I suspect they've been good for business. Besides isn't almost everyone and everything non-native to Florida. How many 5th generation Florida families do you know?

[Capt J]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

I see you never went swimming in the Hudson River back in the 60's...or then again, maybe you did.

The Hudson being so polluted was caused by that one factory (I forgot the name of it) that was located about 200 miles North of NYC on the Hudson river. I do know that they heavily fined the company and the company did a lot of things to try to clean up the water in the Hudson.

The Hudson river pollution had nothing to do with boats.

I agree with the Manatees that were never native to FL. It seems they use the manatees for people's own personal benefit such as a no wake zone in front of really nice houses to increase the property value because you can now dock a yacht there.

I do not believe in Evolution, but a lot of tree huggers and so forth do. But isn't the core of Evolution mean that the fittest species survive and the ones that aren't fit become extinct and on and on?

[NYCAP123]

But isn't the core of Evolution mean that the fittest species survive and the ones that aren't fit become extinct and on and on?

Species survive by consuming the lesser species. Most species become extinct by overpopulating and depleting the resources available to them. Man is one heck of a consumer; like none the world has ever seen. We're also the only species that kills for sport.

[CaptNeil]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

Species survive by consuming the lesser species. Most species become extinct by overpopulating and depleting the resources available to them. Man is one heck of a consumer; like none the world has ever seen. We're also the only species that kills for sport.

Where can you kill a manatee for sport?

[Seafarer]

Originally Posted by Capt J

The Hudson being so polluted was caused by that one factory (I forgot the name of it) that was located about 200 miles North of NYC on the Hudson river. I do know that they heavily fined the company and the company did a lot of things to try to clean up the water in the Hudson.

The factories at Hudson Falls and Fort Edward were owned/operated by a relatively unknown little company called General Electric.

[Seafarer]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

Actually, the Hudson is a very beautiful place to cruise... AND SWIM...TODAY (although it's a bit cold for my tastes).

I think it was maybe 1983 or 1984 when I first noticed I could see light reflecting off my feet when I was wading knee-deep at Croton Point. The river has only gotten better since then.

[VikHatBer]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

Ask the Florida tourism board how they feel about them. I suspect they've been good for business. Besides isn't almost everyone and everything non-native to Florida. How many 5th generation Florida families do you know?

$350 tickets for speeding in manatee zones would make a great enterprise!!! I'm sure the Florida tourism board gets their kickbacks from that scam if that's what you mean. The regulatory environmental movement is a sham created to collect fees and penalties and as a vehicle of employment for low IQ wildlife control officers and liberal/hippie scientists to make them feel special.

I can't wait till Florida Wildlife Control goes to the chopping block (hopefully to be dismembered) this summer.

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by VikHatBer

$350 tickets for speeding in manatee zones would make a great enterprise!!! I'm sure the Florida tourism board gets their kickbacks from that scam if that's what you mean. The regulatory environmental movement is a sham created to collect fees and penalties and as a vehicle of employment for low IQ wildlife control officers and liberal/hippie scientists to make them feel special.

I can't wait till Florida Wildlife Control goes to the chopping block (hopefully to be dismembered) this summer.

Paid a few of those did you. Didn't you tell them that you were special?

[vernetluc]

Originally Posted by CaptNeil

Whales are dangerous and don't like boats!

And I do not like THIS kind of boat either...nor the people who are aboard. "Sport" fishermen, big "game" fishing.....!

Go ahead, Orca: make them pay the real big money! Damage the boat (mind not to damge yourself, nor the people).

If this male orca is angry, it is very probably because this bot was disturbing his family, including young ones. But when has anyone seen these "sporstmen" having any respect for what lives in the sea????

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by vernetluc

And I do not like THIS kind of boat either...nor the people who are aboard. "Sport" fishermen, big "game" fishing.....!

Go ahead, Orca: make them pay the real big money! Damage the boat (mind not to damge yourself, nor the people).

If this male orca is angry, it is very probably because this bot was disturbing his family, including young ones. But when has anyone seen these "sporstmen" having any respect for what lives in the sea????

Those pics are photo-shoped.

[Capt J]

Originally Posted by vernetluc

And I do not like THIS kind of boat either...nor the people who are aboard. "Sport" fishermen, big "game" fishing.....!

Go ahead, Orca: make them pay the real big money! Damage the boat (mind not to damge yourself, nor the people).

If this male orca is angry, it is very probably because this bot was disturbing his family, including young ones. But when has anyone seen these "sporstmen" having any respect for what lives in the sea????

For the last 15 years where all the Billfish tournaments have gone from kill tournaments to Catch and release tournaments. I guess they don't care about all of those Marlin and Sailfish they're releasing now.....because it's easier to tag them, measure them, take pictures with a watch in it.

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by Capt J

For the last 15 years where all the Billfish tournaments have gone from kill tournaments to Catch and release tournaments. I guess they don't care about all of those Marlin and Sailfish they're releasing now.....because it's easier to tag them, measure them, take pictures with a watch in it.

Used to watch a charter boat bring in their 3' & 4' sails so they could talk the tourists into buying a mount (Like there's anything but fiberglass in a mount). What a waste that nobody would get a chance to feel them on a hook when they grew up. Guess killing little things helped them feel like men. Me thinks they're overcompensating for something.

[VikHatBer]

Originally Posted by vernetluc

If this male orca is angry, it is very probably because this bot was disturbing his family, including young ones. But when has anyone seen these "sporstmen" having any respect for what lives in the sea????

Is that your scientific opinion? This one's for you...from a sport fisherman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rf1B...eature=related

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by VikHatBer

Is that your scientific opinion? This one's for you...from a sport fisherman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rf1B...eature=related

Well that sure showed how stupid people are. Looks like a vid that will be a hit with the 15 year old set. The point?

[Pascal]

Manattee protection is a scam on the same level as ethanol and global warming... they are not endangered and most are killed by disease and ships, not rec. vessels.

we hit one a few weeks ago, were going flat out in shallow water when the boat lurched up in a big spash of muddy water. No damage, could have been worst as I was pedal to the metal... well, make that block to block since we were on the H16!