Derecktor "Cakewalk"

K1W1 · 05-29-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Lorence

Wondering, what was wrong with the Feadship 62m?

A lot of smaller things like any new boat but a huge problem with Generators.

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Originally Posted by Ron Lorence

And wondering how you found out about the problems?

I am in the business as more than a keyboard operative and spotter.

YachtForums · 05-29-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by K1W1

I am in the business as more than a keyboard operative and spotter.

That's a minor understatement!

Ron Lorence · 05-31-2011, 08:08 AM

Just wondering, I though I read somewhere that some in the Boating Industry do not think that Cakewalk's quality is up to par. Is that correct? Some feel that it's not up to European standards.

Marmot · 05-31-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Lorence

Some feel that it's not up to European standards.

Which are not always what we might believe them to be ...

K1W1 · 05-31-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmot

Which are not always what we might believe them to be ...

Hi,

That statement can unfortunately be applied to more than just yacht building these days.

YachtForums · 05-31-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmot

Which are not always what we might believe them to be ...

In that brief summation, Marmot covers a broad spectrum and he's quite right. Prior to visiting a number of European yards, I was under the same assumption. The subject of this thread was no Cakewalk for Derecktor, but that boat will hold its own against many a Euro yard.

05-31-2011, 10:28 AM

I am shure that Derecktor can present as an american the same
quality than european yards.
Why do some persons think here that that isn't so?

Marmot · 05-31-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Justus

Why do some persons think here that that isn't so?

Because image is more important than substance to some.

Because there is still a certain aura that surrounds the names of old line European yards with a history of building the world's most elegant and famous yachts. It is difficult to compare build quality when emotion is such a large part of the equation.

Because the name of at least one EU yard is actually used in contracts as a measure of quality. The fact is that one of the worst examples of not just quality but ethics I have seen recently came from a yard with what most of us consider(ed) an unimpeachable pedigree.

Personally, I am very impressed with what I saw on Cakewalk before and after it was launched. Derecktor doesn't take a back seat to any builder as far as I am concerned. If there are owner spec'd and contractor supplied items that are not working out well, that problem probably has roots in other areas.

05-31-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmot

Because image is more important than substance to some.

Because there is still a certain aura that surrounds the names of old line European yards with a history of building the world's most elegant and famous yachts. It is difficult to compare build quality when emotion is such a large part of the equation.

Because the name of at least one EU yard is actually used in contracts as a measure of quality. The fact is that one of the worst examples of not just quality but ethics I have seen recently came from a yard with what most of us consider(ed) an unimpeachable pedigree.

Personally, I am very impressed with what I saw on Cakewalk before and after it was launched. Derecktor doesn't take a back seat to any builder as far as I am concerned. If there are owner spec'd and contractor supplied items that are not working out well, that problem probably has roots in other areas.

Yea I agree with you , for me it seems that as well possible that
Cakewalk was built by Lurssen or Oceanco.
I think it's stupid to judge a yard after her age etc.
I distracted from the main topic, so lets get back to them..

K1W1 · 05-31-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Justus

Yea I agree with you , for me it seems that as well possible that
Cakewalk was built by Lurssen or Oceanco.
I think it's stupid to judge a yard after her age etc.
I distracted from the main topic, so lets get back to them..

Hi,

Justus, I hope your work experience is going well.

To make to the top of your chosen field in the yacht business English language skills are as important as the other subjects you have to study.

The Cakewalk referred to in this thread was built in the US not in Germany or Holland.

05-31-2011, 12:18 PM

Yes I know that she was built in the USA.
I wanted to say that quality (outside) looks like the quality
from european yards.
And I work on my English skills , sorry that they aren't very well.

YachtForums · 05-31-2011, 12:26 PM

I think Justus was saying that Cakewalk looked as though it could have been built by Oceanco or Lurssen, but got lost in the translation.

Justus, some good advice is offered by K1W1. Being fluent in multiple languages is a big plus (in any line of work), but I'm more concerned about you expressing your opinions without having any real world experience on these boats.

I know one of our mods has asked you to refrain from posting unless you had something relevant to add to a thread. Please govern yourself accordingly. You are welcome to read the forums and learn. An occasional remark when you have specific knowledge or information is welcome, but nothing more... please. This isn't a playground.

Soundbounder · 06-08-2011, 10:27 AM

Cakewalk V is for sale:

http://articles.courant.com/2011-06-...se-tim-heywood

Not sure if it is true, but I've heard the owner is ordering a larger boat from Derecktor

Yacht News · 10-02-2011, 12:55 AM

Nice night pic of "Cakewalk" at the 2011 MYS...

All sizes | Cakewalk | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

dennismc · 10-02-2011, 02:42 PM

I talked with the supplier/manufacturer of the stainless steel used on Cakewalk, a German fellow that I met in Cape Coral, I assumed and queried that the |StSt
was made in Europe ?? no..Taiwan