[William Smith]

I will try to take some good photos next time I am aboard and i will be buying a 4S shortly.

[sunray09]

Can anyone tell me..why Yacht designers don't modify the stern of a fishing boat so that it can back down effectively without putting the deck awash. It seems to me..that a modified V at the stern might make the boat LOOK funny but operate more efficiently.
Not sure it would be any advantage in a following sea.
The Accelair 65 has taken the modern hullform and modified it for a performance gain
When will someone do a radical rethink of the sportfish hullform?
Is this traditional design where the evolution stops...time will tell I guess

[William Smith]

Originally Posted by sunray09

Can anyone tell me..why Yacht designers don't modify the stern of a fishing boat so that it can back down effectively without putting the deck awash. It seems to me..that a modified V at the stern might make the boat LOOK funny but operate more efficiently.
Not sure it would be any advantage in a following sea.
The Accelair 65 has taken the modern hullform and modified it for a performance gain
When will someone do a radical rethink of the sportfish hullform?
Is this traditional design where the evolution stops...time will tell I guess

This hull design was specifically designed to enhance backing down on a fish. It was one of the few hulls that was actually tank tested while going astern. The tank predicted that she should be able to do 10 knots astern before the water would come over the cockpit coamings, which has been verified after delivery. The transom has a slight "V" at centerline and the swimplatform transom slopes forward beneath the water. This design helps direct the water around and under the stern when backing down hard.

[rcrapps]

Somebody help me here, In a mag a while ago, there was an article about some builder (Florida panhandle?) that shaped her hull at the stern to back down and maneuver at some great speed. Think around the 45' to 50' area. They did loose SOME forward performance due to the hull design and some losses because they used smaller engines to lighten the weight in the stern. From what I remember, it she went half as fast backward as forward.

[William Smith]

G and S Boats in Freeport, FL was building a boat with a rounded transom. The boat was still under construction and for sale, last I heard.

[Old Phart]

Originally Posted by sunray09

Can anyone tell me..why Yacht designers don't modify the stern of a fishing boat so that it can back down effectively without putting the deck awash. It seems to me..that a modified V at the stern might make the boat LOOK funny but operate more efficiently.
Not sure it would be any advantage in a following sea.
The Accelair 65 has taken the modern hullform and modified it for a performance gain
When will someone do a radical rethink of the sportfish hullform?Is this traditional design where the evolution stops...time will tell I guess

Here's a picture for your viewing pleasure.



Link about Stewart Campbell's unfinished boat.

Stewart Campbell's Boat

GOOGLE returns for sportfishing boats that plane in reverse.

Google

[kapnd]

While I am not impressed by the gross overstatement of a 122' sportfisher, I was intrigued by the Mary P's stabilizer system, first of its type I ever heard about.
The question is, does it work? Quantum's website doesn't have any info, I would think they would be blowing their horn about such innovation!
Most of the world's commercial fish boats and a good number of pleasureboats operate in displacement speeds, and drag "fish" off the riggers with at least a one knot penalty for the stabilization.
If these Magnus effect things work as advertised, commercial fishermen might save tons of fuel, as well as cruisers and yachties of the go-slo type.
Any info?

[84far]

Originally Posted by kapnd

While I am not impressed by the gross overstatement of a 122' sportfisher, I was intrigued by the Mary P's stabilizer system, first of its type I ever heard about.
The question is, does it work? Quantum's website doesn't have any info, I would think they would be blowing their horn about such innovation!
Most of the world's commercial fish boats and a good number of pleasureboats operate in displacement speeds, and drag "fish" off the riggers with at least a one knot penalty for the stabilization.
If these Magnus effect things work as advertised, commercial fishermen might save tons of fuel, as well as cruisers and yachties of the go-slo type.
Any info?

Some light Reading

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/te...abilizers.html

Far

[84far]

Originally Posted by Old Phart

Here's a picture for your viewing pleasure.

Attachment 48770

Link about Stewart Campbell's unfinished boat.

Stewart Campbell's Boat

GOOGLE returns for sportfishing boats that plane in reverse.

Google

I would like to see a show of hands who backs down like this....?

And if your a decky on this boat, hope you have health care... may be useful.

Far

[Loren Schweizer]

Oh, puh-leaze.

With the continuing pussification, the wimping-down of what used to be manly pursuits in this modern age, maybe the American Sportsman furiously backing down on a worthy fish and getting absolutely soaked by sheets of cold saltwater in the cockpit of his WaveBuster 65 is amongst the last who live life large.

Back 'er down at 12 or 15, Billy--that's what magazine cover shots used to portray: the sturm & drang and rich pageantry of the fight.

[kapnd]

84Far, thanks for the links, I always enjoy reading about new (to me, anyway) technologies.
While the applications shown are applied to larger yachts, wouldnt it work just as well or maybe even better on smaller lighter boats?
Why not straight down from the keel?

Loren Schweizer, As an avid sportfisherman, and one who takes the sport in a more ballsified fashion ie smaller, more maneuverable boats, I generally chase billfish in forward gear, not a trick that can be easily accomplished on a pussified boat that is longer than the distance of the baits to the rod tips!