[rocdiver]

This is 5 months after application of propspeed. From Ft Lauderdale to New England on her own bottom, then based in a very quiet marina (not much flow) on the Jersey shore. Running about once a week somewhere in New England.

Still good coating and not a bit of growth. I LOVE it!!

Ditto with the bowthruster!

ROCKY

[VikHatBer]

Micron 44? I know it's illegal nowadays but we didn't have to repaint our bottom for 4 years, no joke. You used to still be able to buy it in Nassau until a couple years ago, but even they don't sell it anymore. A buddy of mine gave me a gallon of 100% liquid tin (supposedly very rare). He uses it to paint the bottom of his 54' Hatteras sport fish. You mix it 1/10 with paint and it acts in place of the copper-heavy Micron 44. In my experience, this made little to no difference as our Viking was recently hauled and the paint looks much worse after 2 years than nearly 5 years (2000-2005) of Micron 44.

When will the government leave us alone?

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by VikHatBer

Micron 44? I know it's illegal nowadays but we didn't have to repaint our bottom for 4 years, no joke. You used to still be able to buy it in Nassau until a couple years ago, but even they don't sell it anymore. A buddy of mine gave me a gallon of 100% liquid tin (supposedly very rare). He uses it to paint the bottom of his 54' Hatteras sport fish. You mix it 1/10 with paint and it acts in place of the copper-heavy Micron 44. In my experience, this made little to no difference as our Viking was recently hauled and the paint looks much worse after 2 years than nearly 5 years (2000-2005) of Micron 44.

When will the government leave us alone?

Hi,

You might be interested to read the info here.

http://www.yachtpaint.com/Images/15_26807.pdf

There are also a couple of other websites shown in that where there is further info.

There is pretty much a worldwide ban on TBT Antifoulings as they have been proven to have quite an impact on the environment.

[VikHatBer]

Originally Posted by K1W1

Hi,

You might be interested to read the info here.

http://www.yachtpaint.com/Images/15_26807.pdf

There are also a couple of other websites shown in that where there is further info.

There is pretty much a worldwide ban on TBT Antifoulings as they have been proven to have quite an impact on the environment.

So where can you still get the good stuff?

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by VikHatBer

So where can you still get the good stuff?

Hi,

If you are asking where you can get Hi TBT ( Now illegal in most of the world) anti fouling you are asking the wrong guy.

If you want something that will do the job, try this:

www.yachtpaint.com/Images/15_21868.pdf

[VikHatBer]

I'll have to ask around about the new Micron 66. If it works as good or better, which it claims to, I would be a sponsor of it, and convince my friends in the industry to do so. However, it takes a lot to change the mids of old timers like me who have seen a bunch of "new wonder paints" try to take the place of TBT but fail miserably.

If you ask me, the old Micron 44 from the 80's and 90's was like the "Viagra" of antifouling paints. Now that the "Viagra" mixture is illegal -- though probably not 100% out of production, there is a lot of the new crap that is advertized as a replacement is nothing more than a "wonder paint". Only time will tell.

Have a good one...

[Codger]

Thanks all, for the updates.
The legalities aside, I wouldn't even consider a project if I had to use materials that would cause further damage to what was once a beautiful and fairly clean waterway. Sailed from Montreal to Kingston in the mid 60s on a 22 footer. Lots of diversions and places to be diverted to. Crossing to and fro across the border in those days was a much different proposition from the realities of today, as long as all the booze bottle aboard were unsealed and not for resale. Still a soft spot in me for the seaway.


How do these paints hold up to pressure washers? If the current crop of products will keep the beasties from taking up residence for a couple of years then sending out a crew of divers to wash it all down every second summer doesn't sound like an unreasonable option.

[TK-F430]

Does anyone have any experience with the Interlux product, Trilux 33? I should be antifouling my boat next week and this product was offered to me.

[C4ENG]

K1, Do you know how the TBT effects the environment? Or what it is doing for the governments to want it banned?

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by C4ENG

K1, Do you know how the TBT effects the environment? Or what it is doing for the governments to want it banned?

Hi,

The long and the short is the goodies that kill everything that tries to grow on your boat leech off into the water and kill the basic structures of the food chain causing particular problems to filter feeders which cover shellfish and many crustaceans.

I have sent you a PM with a link to an article to read.

[Capt J]

Add 16 ounces of Cayenne pepper to each gallon of bottom paint and you'll be really surprised how effective it is.

[FISHTIGUA]

A couple of years ago I was still able to buy TBT (cattle anti-biotic) in Venezuela pretty much off the shelf, there is an aweful lot of cattle in South America.

In Puerto la Cruz, where we were, the canals have terrible hard bi-valve growth so the hull was fine but nothing seemed to work on the sterngear. Most of the time we sent a diver down once a week to keep it clean.

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by Capt J

Add 16 ounces of Cayenne pepper to each gallon of bottom paint and you'll be really surprised how effective it is.

Hi,

I have also been told many years ago that Arsenic in similar quantities does a good job.

Fishtigua- Are you getting confused between Tropical Bont Tick often referred to as TBT in Veterinary Publications as seen here:

http://www.fao.org/Ag/Magazine/0205sp1.htm

and Tri Butyl Tin often referred to as TBT in Marine Publications as seen here?:

http://www.mbhs.edu/departments/magn...i/stephen.html

[Capt J]

Originally Posted by K1W1

Hi,

I have also been told many years ago that Arsenic in similar quantities does a good job.

Fishtigua- Are you getting confused between Tropical Bont Tick often referred to as TBT in Veterinary Publications as seen here:

http://www.fao.org/Ag/Magazine/0205sp1.htm

and Tri Butyl Tin often referred to as TBT in Marine Publications as seen here?:

http://www.mbhs.edu/departments/magn...i/stephen.html

Yeah except I wouldn't mind splattering a little paint with Cayenne pepper on my hands. I don't think I'd want to have anything to do with arsenic

Also Propspeed works very well. However if you have any electrolysis issues, it will boil it right off in a month or two (along with any other coating on running gear). I prefer Trilux on running gear if the vessel cruises under 20 knots and propspeed if it cruises over 20 knots.

[sblunden]

Originally Posted by TK-F430

Does anyone have any experience with the Interlux product, Trilux 33? I should be antifouling my boat next week and this product was offered to me.

A little late replying, but I use Trilux outdrive paint on my running gear. Our season is short and the water is cold, though, up in New England. Little or no fouling last year.