[emilios]

Originally Posted by brandonw

Is there a reason why they would have the smaller engines in it? Not into speed?

I find it quite strange myself that the top-of-the-range has so small (for her size) engines, and such a slow cruising/top speed. Cost shouldn't be a factor..

[DJT]

Hiya Folks

Myself and my Team at Sunseeker were all really pround of what we deem to be the Best Sunseeker to be built to date. Make sure you all watch Casino Royalle as it is a bit of an advert for Sunseeker. It has a fair number of Sunseekers in it but the star of the show has to be M3 (the 1st 108P we built) We are currently building another one with more on order.

Shiver has an Aussie flag as her owner is Austrailian, he is a lovely down to earth man whom totally specd the entire boat, he even had the paint job done by his team from aus.
Shiver is now back in the n=med after going to aus for the season.
The skipper is also a top man.

Best Regards
Darren

[emilios]

Hi Darren,

welcome aboard, I heard that Shiver has acually been sold to greece...

Must be nice working for sunseeker. Keep up the good work.

Best rergards

Emilios

[Teenna]

It's no secret who the owner of Shiver is. Back home in Australia he's clearly quoted in the daily newspapers as the owner. The yacht was down under after the season in the med, trying to sell over there, the fact that didn't happen. So she's back in the med for sale, again (she was for sale already in the Monaco yacht show 2005). What's so great about it? Well, finish is good, but it was payed on top of the yacht's price, i guess, so the asking price of a used boat is extremely high due to all the extra work. On the other hand she is a rather slow sunseeker, and...she is just a sunseeker.

[Dhowdodger]

Originally Posted by mr_sunseeker

It's nice to see them in action! Can anyone else name any movies with Superyachts or good yachts in? Sorry I'm straying off the original toipc maybe this should have its own thread?

Ewan Mcgergor designer of the Wally - The Island

[YachtNews]

Originally Posted by Dhowdodger

Ewan Mcgergor designer of the Wally - The Island

More accurately known as the Wallypower 118

[emilios]

Originally Posted by Teenna

..On the other hand she is a rather slow sunseeker, and...she is just a sunseeker.

What exactly do you mean she is just a sunseeker?

[Teenna]

Originally Posted by emilios

What exactly do you mean she is just a sunseeker?

Well if you are from Cyprus than you have probably heard about the Predator that was time ago moored in Limassol (there aren't that many there)...and all the stuff that was going around that unfortunate yacht, delamination, tanks leaking...

Sunseeker is a light, structurally underdimensioned yacht, that due to inercia starts to suffer this over a certain lenght/weight/power ratio. keeping them slow is the best one can do.

When i said "just a sunseeker" i meant that on the market they(sunseekers) are not seen as mercedeses or bmwes or audis, but rather opels/vauxhalls/gms and therefore no need to super charge them with mega options and custom paint etc... as it is like with the cars; you never get back the after market investements on a "people's carrier" (volkwagen )

[emilios]

Originally Posted by Teenna

Well if you are from Cyprus than you have probably heard about the Predator that was time ago moored in Limassol (there aren't that many there)...and all the stuff that was going around that unfortunate yacht, delamination, tanks leaking...

Sunseeker is a light, structurally underdimensioned yacht, that due to inercia starts to suffer this over a certain lenght/weight/power ratio. keeping them slow is the best one can do.

When i said "just a sunseeker" i meant that on the market they(sunseekers) are not seen as mercedeses or bmwes or audis, but rather opels/vauxhalls/gms and therefore no need to super charge them with mega options and custom paint etc... as it is like with the cars; you never get back the after market investements on a "people's carrier" (volkwagen )

So, in your opinion, what are the mercedeses/bmws/audis of the boating world? You really surprise me..

I've been actively involved with pleaure boating since I was 9 and -believe me- I have seen boats from supposedly very "respectable and reputable " brands (american/italian/french/german/british) have very serious problems and suffer a lot more than sunseekers, with build quality to laugh about!! At least with sunseekers you get what is probably one of the most original, distinctive, recognisable and timeless/classic design/shape and prestigious branding, fantastic rough-sea hull design and performance, luxurious accommodation, top-quality materials, excellent service and support, and definitely pride of ownership. They may need a bit more consistency and tidiness in the enginerooms or behind-the-scenes (although recent ones I've seen have nothing to complain about compared to other, much more expensive production brands). Also they may not be as practical, as spacious or as easy to liveaboard as other boats-especially american, but there are boats a lot worse out there.

Ever since I laid eyes on a sunseeker for the first time at Brighton marina during my higher education in the UK in the late eighties, I have fallen in love with them and have since owned three (1987 Portofino 31, 1990 Martinique 36 and currently a 1994 Camargue 46) and I have never had any problems with either boat whatsoever, nor would I ever consider spending my money on anything else (I am already planning to move on to a 1999 Predator 54). I like and respect Azimut's open S-Line a lot, Riva's, Baglietto's etc, but for me only sunseeker clicks!

Best regards

Emilios

[Teenna]

Dear Emilios, carefully reading my post you would have noticed that I was reffering to larger Sunseekers, and since the whole thread is about Shiver (108') I have nothing to explain to you here.

I agree with you that in a range up to 60' Sunseeker rules, the gelcoat is good and the performance/price/quality ratio is high. What I said is that this formula fails when it comes to large yachts, and sunseeker is having this problem, applying building and construction technniques from "small" yachts to a big size, if not mega yachts. Where they want to step in is an area where are also yachts like PJ. And please, let's not compare here.

They are asking 7.000.000 Euro (7.900.000$) for Shiver. We'll talk again when and for what they sell, ok?

[brandonw]

Interesting find on YachtWorld:

http://www.yachtworld.com/

[KCook]

Don't believe I've ever seen a build spec that was "unfathomed" before

[Teenna]

Oops, i missed for a rounded 1.000.000$ and I thought it was expensive!

[DJT]

Originally Posted by emilios

Hi Darren,

welcome aboard, I heard that Shiver has acually been sold to greece...

Must be nice working for sunseeker. Keep up the good work.

Best rergards

Emilios

Hi Emilios

Nice to here that you are a proud owner of a Suneeker
Next time you are at the factory come and see me at Shipyard One and I will give you a tour around our facilities

Best Regards
Darren

[DJT]

Originally Posted by Teenna

Oops, i missed for a rounded 1.000.000$ and I thought it was expensive!

Hi Teena

Just thought I'd drop you a line...
The owner of Shiver has at least 16 other boats and only 2 of them are Sunseekers
Everyone of them are for sale.
Most owners put their boats up for sale prior to taking delivery of them

The owner of Shiver bought a 118 Palmer Johnston after taking delivery of Shiver and has now sold her

Darren