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06-22-2004, 01:56 PM
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Royal Denship Yachts - Norseman Expedition Series 52 meter
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09-13-2005, 12:15 AM
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Please note that these yachts are not exclusive to Royal Denship.....they are referenced from Frontier Marine Designs ( www.frontiermarinedesigns.com), created and conceived by M/Y Big Roi's former captain, Grant Maughan.
Grant was the build captain for Big Roi, so I guess that this is great advertising for Frontier Marine Designs!!!!
His renderings of his 80M, 85M, and 90M Norseman series are seriously cool looking yachts!!!
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Mark
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09-13-2005, 12:29 AM
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I'm wondering what the cutout in the side of the hull on the 52 is all about? Just under the gunnel, directly below the front of the cabin. I've seen cutouts like that near the stern, but never so near the bow.
Kelly
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09-13-2005, 12:46 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by KCook I'm wondering what the cutout in the side of the hull on the 52 is all about? Just under the gunnel, directly below the front of the cabin. I've seen cutouts like that near the stern, but never so near the bow.
Kelly |
Hello,
I am just guessing......it might very well be a possible balcony.....I have seen some interior renderings of a few of the larger Norseman series, and there are balconies on the 90m Norseman for some of the Guest Staterooms as well....a nice feature, and usually on the smaller boats, for the Owner's Stateroom!!!!
Also, on a number of Grant's designs, he uses those port and starboard compartments for tender storage.
Hope that this helps!!!
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Mark
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09-13-2005, 12:56 AM
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Seems like a lot of trouble to accommodate a tender. When you could just chuck it up on the bow (like everbody else)? Curious feature.
Kelly
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09-13-2005, 05:01 AM
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Those are huge garages in the sides! Different i guess!
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09-13-2005, 11:04 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by KCook Seems like a lot of trouble to accommodate a tender. When you could just chuck it up on the bow (like everybody else)? Curious feature.
Kelly |
Well,
From what I understand (and considering how a number of the BIGGER yachts have much higher decks, many designers and owners are wanting these compartments to reduce the height that you need to launch the tenders into the water. I guess that could be logical if your tenders are on a deck that is 25' above the water. I could not imagine launching a tender from the higher decks of Paul Allen's Octopus in rough seas...that may very well be why all of his tenders are located in compartments just above the water line.
What I have been told is that when you have the side compartments (oyyyy, they eat up interior space) you dramatically reduce the risk of the tender crashing into the side of the boat when launching in rough seas.
So, a compartment that is only 2-8' above the waterline (as opposed to 15' or more) makes lowering the tenders much safer for the crew, guests and the yacht itself....
Finally, I have read where some yacht owners do NOT want to see the tenders. Also, they may not have enough room on the decks to put all the tenders.
Hopefully an educated guess!!!!!
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Mark
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09-13-2005, 12:05 PM
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It would make a good niche for an inflatable lifeboat. But I can't imagine the need to launch tenders in rough seas in the first place. Except for an emergency.
Kelly
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09-13-2005, 06:28 PM
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The 80 and 90 do carry expedition themes. But the 85 looks like a "conventional" motoryacht to me. Mind you, a very NICE motoryacht
Kelly
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09-14-2005, 02:13 AM
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I'm agree. The 85 is an expedition yacht for pleasure yacht lovers |
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09-14-2005, 09:40 AM
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What is so interesting are the number of yachts that are now being called "expedition" yachts, yet look more like normal yachts....if there is such a thing as "normal". For instance, I have seen Paul Allen's yacht Octopus called an "expedition" yacht....same thing for Greg Norman's former yacht, Aussie Rules.
For many years I always associated expedition yachts as those like Bart Roberts, Big Roi, Pangaea, etc...with the same basic style like the Norseman shown here: http://www.frontiermarinedesigns.com/Designs/F64.html (and what the designer refers to as an "aft wheelhouse design"....)
So, I wonder what exactly one needs on board to classify as an "expedition" yacht?? Serious fuel reserves?? Steel hull?? Full displacement???? The extra tenders?? Redundancy in all of the on board systems??? For instance, the new 180' Trinity Mia Elise is a steel hulled full displacement yacht, but will it ever go to the remote wilds??? Or do owners simply want a cooler look that a white boat will give them rather than the massive bow and smaller superstructure????
I wonder if many of the "standard" white boats would be able to brave the remote locations that the big expedition yachts can sail into????
Hmmmmmm
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Mark
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09-14-2005, 10:03 AM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by mwagner1
I wonder if many of the "standard" white boats would be able to brave the remote locations that the big expedition yachts can sail into????
Hmmmmmm
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Mark |
I think it is more up to the owner. The Feadships Charade and Meduse was used for expeditions before the owner built Octopus.
I wouldn´t mind an expedition yacht like this; http://community.webshots.com/photo/...84359902rHKKmm
Maybe the expedition style yachts are better in remote locations in that they are more discrete?
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