[mwagner1]

Originally Posted by AMG

I think it is more up to the owner. The Feadships Charade and Meduse was used for expeditions before the owner built Octopus.

Maybe the expedition style yachts are better in remote locations in that they are more discrete?

Well, I may show some ignorance here so please forgive me. When I visited Trinity Yachts in November of 2003, the 192' Ulysses was still there (the yacht had suffered a serious fire just before the yacht was done, so all I saw was a raw superstructure).

If anything about the Ulysses bothered me it was that the Owner's Deck was not all that spacious, especially compared to the normal white boat styles of other yachts at the yard. Thus, I could imagine an owner eschewing the expedition style in favor of a white boat design and thus more space on the upper decks, though still engineering and building in the features that make an expedition yacht just that: massive fuel reserves, water supplies, dive shop, heli pad, etc.

Sooooooo, you could then get a true expedition capable yacht and still retain the interior space of a traditional white yacht.

Finally, maybe some owners do not like the rugged looks of the aft style expedition yachts and feel that they might look like savages while docked in the Med amongst all the shiny white boats??? And maybe an owner would feel that their shiny white boat in the wilds of the distant oceans might look more enticing to pirates...as opposed to that massive threatening expedition yacht???

Who really knows????

Cheers,

Mark

[Codger]

The following definition of an expedition yacht works for me. Not sure where I read it.
Seaworthy and capable on all seas, in all seasons, in all weather. Completely self contained for a minimum of 60 days at sea.

[KCook]

While it may have been used in expedition type voyages, I really can't see Méduse as an expedition type yacht at all!

I wonder if this whole expedition theme is traveling the same path as 4 wheel drive Sport Utility Vehicles? In the beginning only hard core off-road drivers bought them. Then they became a "statement", and moms were buying them to run to the grocery store.

My view is that the keys to "expedition" are full displacement hull, high bow, and shortened superstructure. Absent any two of these clues, it's a motoryacht, not an expedition yacht.

Kelly

[AMG]

OK guys,

Here is your expedition yacht...

[KCook]

Yup!

[YachtForums]

Originally Posted by AMG

OK guys, here is your expedition yacht...

LOL! If one image could represent the meaning of the original expedition yacht... it would have to be Calypso. I'm sure there were others that came before her... and many more after, but she is forever embedded in our memories.

Good discussion guys!

[mwagner1]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Yes, the Calypso looks more like a expedition yacht, way more so than the Meduse!!!

Oh well...if I paid gazillions for my yacht, I can darn well call it what ever I want to call it!!!! Even in the warn shallow waters of the Bahamas!!!

However, if I was a'plowin into monster waves, I would rather have a very high bow than the "normal" bow that most white boats have!!!!

I have to admit that I find that any yacht which has a more or less "expedition" look (like Pangaea, Big Roi, Grant's 63m, etc) tends to look more unusual and distinctive than many of the white yachts, IMHO (uh oh, here comes the flames!!!)...

Please understand that this is NOT an attempt to insult many of the superb boat builders, but many of the white boats start to look the same to me after a while...especially if you get into the 150' range....Christenson, Trinity, Delta, and many of the EU yards make white boats that start to look the same after seeing dozens and dozens. Just look at the ads in the published yachting magazines and then look at the ads for the for sale/charter boats in the back of the magazines....

Even Grant's 85m looks closer to a standard white boat (and Grant does design the standard white boats as well), though I still like the design.

After the first of the year (and things go really well for our company), I will start planning a new build, and mark my word.....NOBODY will ever question whether or not it is an expedition yacht!!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHA

Cheers,

Mark

[orion]

This could be a nice base for a cool expedition styled yacht.
360 degrees around view from the commando bridge, high bow
and space on front deck for expedition toyz......