[Capt J]

Originally Posted by Marmot

Uh cap, didn't the statement "It would come in just under 200GT but over 150GT. " give you any hint as to the size of the boat he is considering?

If I had to guess at around or just over 24 meters. It would have to be a long range trawler with considerable size for it's length.......something along the lines of a Nordhaven 76' or a Northern Marine 80' to get that kind of tonnage. Although I worked on a 75' Sportfish that was 125GT which was surprising since a 75' Hatteras MY I run is only 74GT.

I really doubt a 24m sailboat would even be over 100GT

['roundthehorn]

Originally Posted by Capt J

If I had to guess at around or just over 24 meters. It would have to be a long range trawler with considerable size for it's length.......something along the lines of a Nordhaven 76' or a Northern Marine 80' to get that kind of tonnage.

FYI...From the Nordhavn site -- http://www.nordhavn.com

N68 Displacement: 230,000 lbs./104.3 MT
N72 Displacement: 240,000 lbs./108.8 MT
N76 Displacement: 252,000 lbs./114.3 MT
N86 Displacement: 400,000 lbs./181.4 MT

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by Marmot

Uh cap, didn't the statement "It would come in just under 200GT but over 150GT. " give you any hint as to the size of the boat he is considering?

So did the 24m. Whether it was to be sail or motor was what I questioned because he said "I'd be mostly sailing".

[Marmot]

Originally Posted by 'roundthehorn

FYI...From the Nordhavn site --

I don't know what kind of horn you've been going around but the registered tonnage of ships going round the Cape has nothing to do with displacement.

[Marmot]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

So did the 24m.

?? Maybe I need to post that reading comprehension link again. Nobody but you said anything about 24m. Read the posts.

The original post stated "large yacht" and by most flag state definitions that means one larger than 24m. The term "sailing" is used by most mariners to describe the act of committing navigation on any kind of vessel. I spent years sailing submarines, more years sailing tankers and boxboats, I even have some time sailing a sailboat.

Gross tonnage to a mariner is a regulatory measure of the internal volume, not the displacement. There are some excellent books available if you want to learn about boats.

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by Marmot

?? Maybe I need to post that reading comprehension link again. Nobody but you said anything about 24m. Read the posts.

The original post stated "large yacht" and by most flag state definitions that means one larger than 24m. The term "sailing" is used by most mariners to describe the act of committing navigation on any kind of vessel. I spent years sailing submarines, more years sailing tankers and boxboats, I even have some time sailing a sailboat.

Gross tonnage to a mariner is a regulatory measure of the internal volume, not the displacement. There are some excellent books available if you want to learn about boats.

The 24m comes from post 11. I read just fine although maybe, specifically for your benefit, I should have said 24m PLUS. I think most half-way intelligent and less picayune readers understood that my question was not relating to size, but was asking (and not stating) if he was referring to sail since he used that phrase. Although you "sailed" on a submarine most of us "cruise" on cruisers and motoryachts. Now maybe you should try giving DONUT the specific answer to the question he is asking since you know all. That's as much time as I'm wasting on you in this thread.

['roundthehorn]

Marmot,
Thank you ever so much for correcting me. I forgot that the two are not interchangeable or even directly related. I do indeed recall that there is a difference now that you have reminded me. My experience is more in the smaller yacht range and I tend to think more in terms of the weight of the vessel and whether or not the Travelift® can handle the load without collapsing or dropping the hull.

[Marmot]

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

The 24m comes from post 11. I read just fine...

I don't think so, cap. The man used 24m because that is the regulatory cutoff between little boats and "large yachts." It is where the Large Yacht Code comes into effect. It is a critical waypoint in the path to certification (licensing) of yacht crew.

Like I said, there are books about this sort of thing if you want to learn something about the kind of boats the original poster is talking about.

I think Donut got a very specific answer to his question. He got a reference to the relevent document published by the organization that issues the license he seeks, and a suggestion that he contact them directly to obtain an official response.

[Marmot]

Originally Posted by 'roundthehorn

I tend to think more in terms of the weight of the vessel and whether or not the Travelift® can handle the load without collapsing or dropping the hull.

Which is far more important to most of us than what makes the tax collector's world go 'round.

[Capt J]

Originally Posted by 'roundthehorn

FYI...From the Nordhavn site -- http://www.nordhavn.com

N68 Displacement: 230,000 lbs./104.3 MT
N72 Displacement: 240,000 lbs./108.8 MT
N76 Displacement: 252,000 lbs./114.3 MT
N86 Displacement: 400,000 lbs./181.4 MT

Gross Tons is a measurement based on interior volume of the vessel and some other calculations. It has NOTHING to do with actual displacement.

['roundthehorn]

Thanks again, CaptJ. Got it. As indicated above, my memory got that jumpstart after Marmot reminded me.