Hatteras Yachts and their old hull molds...

VikHatBer · 10-25-2008, 01:02 AM

What does Hatteras Yachts do with their hull molds when they are done using them? Do they destroy them? Do they store them? Is there any way to purchase, borrow, copy, or get the rights to use an older mold form for the purpose of fabricating a hull?

Pascal · 10-25-2008, 05:01 PM

doubt it... i heard (not sure how true) that older molds used to be sunk off shore, not sure if this is true or folklore

VikHatBer · 10-25-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pascal

doubt it... i heard (not sure how true) that older molds used to be sunk off shore, not sure if this is true or folklore

What a horrible thought. Do they have the GPS coordinates (or Loran #'s for older molds)??? That folklorist should be put in jail!

By the way, are you the famous yacht surveyor?

Capt J · 10-25-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VikHatBer

What does Hatteras Yachts do with their hull molds when they are done using them? Do they destroy them? Do they store them? Is there any way to purchase, borrow, copy, or get the rights to use an older mold form for the purpose of fabricating a hull?

They're all sitting outside of the factory in the rain and snow rotting. Right next to all of the current molds they're using that sit out in the rain and snow next to them outside of the factory in New Bern.

VikHatBer · 10-25-2008, 10:26 PM

It sounds like I need to make a trip up to New Bern.... Hatteras' new hulls make me sick. They are a direct copy of Viking, which is a much better yacht 2000-2009, especially nowadays. However, Hatteras in the 1980's had the most impressive lineup of boats ever. Look at the # of hulls produced.

Until 1980 they had the 53' SF

1978-1988 - 55' SF
1978-1986 - 60' SF
1979-1983 - 50' SF
1983-1990 - 52' SF
1984-1992 - 45' SF
1988-1990 - 48' SF
1981-1984 - 46' SF
1986-1998 - 65' SF

And many other great Hatteras Sport Fishermen... R.I.P. The new ones are faster but you guys caught way more fish!!! And you guys weren't "snob" only boats... Owners acutally mastered the art of driving and maintaining you guys unlike now. Just hire a crew...

The good ol' days... Bimini vs Central America... I'll take 1984 over 2008 any old day of the week.

Bamboo · 12-20-2008, 02:58 PM

Hatteras hull's are much wider than Vikings at all sizes. Not anything close to a direct copy.

VikHatBer · 01-06-2009, 07:46 PM

Yea, you're right. The 68 has a 21 foot beam. I think the design of the salon windows which look like a sideways teardrop is repulsive... The 68 Viking is way better looking, and faster, which is all the people who buy those big SF boats care about. But what do I know? I don't have 4 million to buy one.

VikHatBer · 03-03-2009, 10:16 AM

MY last post is dying an agonizing death... Does anyone know what Hatteras or any other sport fisherman manufacturers do with their old hull molds???

YachtForums · 03-03-2009, 10:56 AM

Molds by brand name, production boat builders are usually relegated to vacant space at the yard or they are destroyed. It would be a rare exception for them to be sold due to proprietary and signature design elements.

There are discontinued molds for sale on the net by lesser-name builders, or by companies that have closed and are wanting to recover some capital. Just Google it.

Marmot · 03-03-2009, 12:10 PM

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"By the way, are you the famous yacht surveyor? "

Do you mean Pascoe?

I often wonder, too.

That would make a good thread all on its own.

Capt. Bill11 · 03-03-2009, 10:28 PM

Pascal is not Pascoe.

Capt J · 03-03-2009, 10:50 PM

I have pictures of the Hatteras molds sitting out along the fence in New Bern like a parking lot. I'll have to scan them one day and put them on here.......

Pascal · 03-04-2009, 01:46 AM

rofl... that's a good one! thks for clearing that up Bill!!!

VikHatBer · 03-04-2009, 08:45 PM

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I have pictures of the Hatteras molds sitting out along the fence in New Bern like a parking lot. I'll have to scan them one day and put them on here.......

Hey I would really appreciate it Capt J. I have had a fierce passion for most sportfish boats produced in the 1980's since I can remember, especially Hatteras's. Private message me so I can give you my email for those old pics. You would make my week.

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Originally Posted by Pascal

rofl... that's a good one! thks for clearing that up Bill!!!

Sorry to mistake you with a legend, or visa versa.

Loren Schweizer · 03-05-2009, 11:17 AM

Bertram Yacht sent some tooling Down Under in the '80s. Hull/deck/flybridge molds for the 28, the 35 (I think) and the 42 (and perhaps others) went that route and some Bertram-ish boats were built by a company (the name escapes me) of another name. I'm fairly certain that the classic models, i.e., the 31, 46, and 58 were chainsawed and likely add a couple of inches of elevation to Mount Trashmore down in South Miami.
The 72 tooling was bought by a chap who kept them in a loose pile on the Miami River in the early '90s and advertised them for sale for quite a while.
A lot of the minor molds could be found on-site acting as mosquito farms in an area known as The Snakepit and were already, in the late '70s/early '80s, just junk.