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Old 05-20-2008, 02:19 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So who holds the destinction of being the most stupid nation on earth, the nation who allows their citizens to be ripped off the most and whose citizens put up with it.
Sorry, Netherlands. You're nice people, but so far it looks like you. It's lousy to be thought of collectively as that, but that is exactly how the oil companies and OPEC feel about you. Street hustlers would call you a mark. The oil companies call you customers.
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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"I've always said that we are lucky to pay what we do for fuel considering what other countries pay."

CT Dave,
Now for a reality check. I used to captain a 51 Bertram. She held 1100 gals. That's $6,985 for a fill up. She burned 80gph. That's $508 per hour. From Greenwich you're about 6 hours to Newport (a nice day's cruise). That's about $3,048 each way before you've even bought lunch (Or you could do a lunch hop across the sound for about $1,000 plus food).
The average person you deal with during that trip will earn about $80 per day before taxes.
These new fuel prices sure are bringing me a lot more inquiries:

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Yes. I paid the equivalent of $5.17 per US Gallon yesterday.
Perhaps it's time to retire the $2.00 gas thread.
Cross referenced the old thread: $2.00 Gas
http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/ge...-2-00-gas.html
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Old 05-20-2008, 04:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. I love the Dutch. In fact I love every nationality I've ever encountered. The point I'm making is that we're being played for fools with the "well it could always be worse" attitude. We need to get angry and do something about this situation. A few weeks ago truck drivers in New Jersey staged a job action bringing the roadways into NY to a standstill. The government heard that. The citizens, whether they be Dutch, German, American or whatever have to say in unison NO more. I don't know what the cure is, but this thread started as $2.00 Today I saw here $9.00 Air cars and conservation won't do it when we're blatantly told that there is no shortage. "They're" charging this because they can. There is no offense meant by me. Can't say that much for the oil companies.
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Perhaps the time has come and you will build some interesting vessels.
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someone from the car industrie here - should add some nice cars with high pressure air engine
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:45 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I was just on Lake Michigan and Huron. Paid between $3.56-$4.25 for diesel. Alpena had a truck bunker me for $3.90.

An owner who I have been running bi-annually between Fort Lauderdale-New Jersey parked the boat for the summer in Lauderdale. The $4000 extra in insurance for hurricane season far out weighs the $12000 in fuel cost to take the boat north. I have been delivering this owner's boat for 10 years.

I sure hope big sailboats come back into vogue. I'm too old to flip burgers at McDonald's.
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Old 05-20-2008, 10:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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someone from the car industrie here - should add some nice cars with high pressure air engine
Actually I think the electric powered vehicle has a better chance in the long run, and likely some of this new battery technology will come to be a reality.

EEstor sounds promising
http://media.cleantech.com/2644/zenn...or-powered-car

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEstor
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I just caught the tail-end of the news this morning, but did I hear correctly when they said oil is now selling at $130 a barrel?
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Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, et al, are predicting $150 in the 2nd half.

Seems to me, something's going to have to give...
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I just caught the tail-end of the news this morning, but did I hear correctly when they said oil is now selling at $130 a barrel?
Yes. July contracts yesterday.
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Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, et al, are predicting $150 in the 2nd half.

Seems to me, something's going to have to give...
All the Hummer & Escalade drivers?
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All the Hummer & Escalade drivers?
Ha!
No, on a serious note, as the U.S. consumer takes it in the shorts (and not too far behind, Europe as well), where do the Chinese send their exports to?
Call me crazy, but I wonder if there are similarities here to 1997 and the Asian currency crisis...not the same cause, since China's currency reserves are huge this time, but look what happened to the price of oil amid the economic slowdown in the region at the time.

I just find it difficult to imagine the strains on many countries' economies continuing/worsening without something going *pop*.
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Hi,

Fresh off the press: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080521/...ExA9hu7xhv24cA
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In Sweden we will always be on this top list of tax on fuel, diesel is today $ 9.63 and gas a little less. Boat taps a lot more...
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