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Old 08-24-2005, 10:26 AM   #31
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In France, 1.17 € per litre for petrole, and 1.07 € per litre for gasole...

Definitely worth to own a pedalo...
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Old 08-24-2005, 12:32 PM   #32
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It's certainly a good time to start looking at blow-boats I'd think.
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:02 PM   #33
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Motor Oil Prices

Thought this comment from a another forum was interesting as related to this new world of fuel prices.

"As a side comment, it has been impossible to find high spec motor oil - like API CH-4 or CI-4 or ACEA E4 or E5 specs. I once saw Shell Rotella at a bunker ship and have kicked myself for not buying it. Also motor oil is very expensive compared to the US, 4 to 6 Euros per liter ($18 to $27 a gal) and I have done a lot of shopping in auto parts stores and discount stores.
Consequently I have been using Volvo Penta 15w-40 motor oil (API CF-4 / ACEA
E3 spec) in the John Deere since it is the highest spec oil I can find consistently."
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Old 08-27-2005, 11:09 AM   #34
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What it Buys

Amazing what $2.55 a gallon gas can buy, isn't it?
Wait 'til you see this.


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Old 08-27-2005, 11:15 AM   #36
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In case you're wondering where this hotel is, it isn't a hotel at all. It is a house!

It's owned by the family of Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, the former president of the United Arab Emirates and ruler of Abu-Dhabi.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:20 AM   #37
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3.00 Calif. Central Coast!

I pay 3:00 in California Central Coast. But then again, the non-marina pricing is nearing fast. Oh, and I went to Reno and paid 3.01...that's just chump pricing!
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Old 08-29-2005, 10:34 AM   #38
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I think we Americans have to accept some responsiblity ourselves. We have long ignored what the experts were telling us about long term fuel supplies. We continued to ignore conservation measures, and as the far biggest user in the world have brought some of the 'sudden rise' upon ourselves as we waited till the last minute.

In this same vien we continue this lack of foresight even today. Look at this energy bill (finally!!) that all of Congress is patting themselves on the back for. It hardly contains ANY conservation measures....just handouts to the oil companies that are already making record profits from the increases in fuel prices. Lets keep that in mind at the next election.

And we as concerned citizens need to let our elected officials know that we are willing to accept some pain for TRULY intelligent energy policy rather than political policy they continue to pass.

I worked in the oil sector in SE Asia for a few years back in the late nineties. We could see looming problems then, and particularly the coming Chinese situation (now #2 user, surpassing Japan). And watch out, shortly China will feel threatened with being cut off from world fuel supplies like occurred with Japan before WWII. They may likely get REAL aggressive about any energy fines near their territory (such as all of the Spratly Islands).

And we have yet to learn how to intelligently negioate with the Chinese (true bartering combined with 'saving face'). No, we are foolishly tided up in another country.

Our motor vehicles are by far the biggest user of fuel. Why don't we really have a new nation policy on improving their efficiency. We put a man on the moon long ago.....don't you believe that if we made a REAL committment we could attack the problem with some of that brain power and funds we spend on a multitute of weapon's development and get this job done?? I'm not saying stop weapons spending....just stop some of the foolish spending such as that 'extra' nuclear aircraft carrier that even the navy didn't see a need for, nor those fuel tanker planes that are not obsolete. nor this obsolete and non-operable missile crap in Alaska, nor the F22 that may be so complicated it won't fly half the time, etc, etc. Put some of this brain power and wasted funds to work on a real important problem.

Think of what this new auto technology (or better yet, electrical energy stowage technology) would mean for our economy, both here in our own country, as well as an export item to the world. Sure would be nice to have that image again. Wake up America!! you've been snoozing too long
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Brian: Well stated.

I am, err, involved in the oil patch. That being said, I do understand very well that petroleum is a finite resource. The costs of bringing the product to market are increasing, the cheap, easy stuff is gone. I don't even want to get in to the subject of overstated reserves! I would agree strongly with your take on China and the potential for conflict.
I have a little Smart car for running around the city. Admittedly I bought it simply because I enjoy efficient machinery as much as anything else. Much of the time I travel using a small aircraft that burns less than 10GPH just on the shy side of 200 knots. Yes, I do have a couple of toys that can **** fuel at prodigious rates but they don't see that much activity. :-(
Looking forward, security and availability of supply are major issues, no matter on a national basis or bunkering a yacht in many areas of the world. Mr. Abramovich may feel secure enough in ongoing access to his fuel requirements to start another project that won't hit the water for 3 or 4 years but I'm not in his league.
There are renewables being developed that should be transparent replacements for diesel. Methyl Esters as one example currently being used by the US military in some applications.
Getting a hard answer from the marine powerplant manufacturers on compatability has been frustrating to say the least.
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The ripple effects of Hurricane Katrina’s destruction in the Mississippi River basin already are making themselves felt in the U.S. economy, particularly in fuel prices, which are expected to quickly spike at more than $3 a gallon at the pumps.

“The trading market yesterday went into orbit,” says Jerry Nessenson, president of Valvtect Marine Fuel, which supplies 500 marinas with its special blend of fuel.
Nessenson says prices in the Gulf Coast states since Friday went up $1.20 a gallon, to a wholesale price of $3.05 a gallon for unleaded. Prices in New York City were up 60 cents a gallon to $2.45. Nessenson predicts prices at the automotive pumps will reach around $3.50 a gallon, and marine prices will top $4 a gallon.

Supply is also a concern. Nessenson says oil companies are rationing supplies to distributors, which is causing shortages to consumers in some areas. Marinas are particularly hard hit, he says, because marine fuel is a lower priority. The shortages are particularly acute in the Gulf regions, obviously, but Florida is also is feeling the pinch. Nessenson says some of his marina customers are alerting boaters with slip reservations this weekend that fuel supplies will be limited.

“It’s a tough sign of things to come,” says Nessenson, who adds that he personally knows boaters who have cancelled voyages planned for this Labor Day weekend.

The hurricane, which rolled into Louisiana Monday and ripped across Alabama and Mississippi, halted oil production in the Gulf of Mexico where a third of the nation’s domestic oil is produced. Platforms were evacuated, refineries were shuttered and a major oil import terminal was closed.

Refineries in the Gulf Coast area supply finished fuel products to nearly all distributors east of the Rockies, says Nessenson.


It may be weeks before the full extent of the damage at facilities is determined. It takes several days for a refinery to start up production again. Power outages will likely add to the delays, and analysts say it could be months before production returns to pre-storm levels.

The Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, which was evacuated Sunday, appears to have suffered no significant damage, according to a report by the Department of Energy issued Tuesday afternoon. But the biggest hurdle in restarting operations is in restoring electrical power.

Offshore platforms have been hard hit. The Coast Guard, which has been surveying damage with representatives of the petroleum industry, says at least five drilling rigs are missing, seven are adrift and two are listing.

Hurricane Ivan in 2004 led to an estimated loss of nearly 44 million barrels of oil production between September 2004 and February 2005, according to Aon Corp., a risk management service.

Federal officials today say they plan to tap into the nation’s oil reserves to help refiners. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman, in a televised interview, said the government later today will make an official announcement but that officials are prepared to loan refiners barrels of crude.

Shortly after Bodman’s comments, crude oil prices fell 26 cents, to $69.55, around 9 a.m.

Nessenson says tapping into the reserves will help assuage fears, but that the bigger problem is the ability of the refineries to produce enough fuel. Even before the storm, refineries were struggling to keep pace with demand for finished fuel products.

“A car or a boat can’t burn crude oil,” says Nessenson.

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Old 04-10-2006, 11:32 PM   #41
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Price Increases & Chavez's new OPEC

Thought it might be appropriate to bring up this old subject thread again seeing as our fuel prices are headed up again.

.....And an interesting new twist...

NO MORE CHEAP OIL SAYS CHAVEZ
BBC Newsnight
Monday April 3, 2006

If you thought high oil prices were just a blip think again. In an exclusive interview with Greg Palast for BBC Newsnight the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has ruled out any return to the era of cheap oil.

The colourful Venezuelan leader hosts the OPEC meeting on June 1 in Caracas and he will ask OPEC to set $50 a barrel - the average price last year - as the long term level. During the 1990s the price of oil had hovered around the $20 mark falling as low as $10 a barrel in early 1999.

Chavez told Newsnight "we're trying to find an equilibrium. The price of oil could remain at the low level of $50. That's a fair price it's not a high price". Hugo Chavez will have added clout at this OPEC meeting.

US Department of Energy analyses seen by Newsnight show that at $50 a barrel Venezuela - not Saudi Arabia - will have the biggest oil reserves in OPEC. Venezuela has vast deposits of extra heavy oil in the Orinoco. Traditionally these have not been counted because at $20 a barrel they were too expensive to exploit - but at $50 a barrel melting them into liquid petroleum becomes extremely profitable.

The US DoE report shows that at today's prices Venezuela's oil reserves are bigger than those of the entire Middle East including Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, Iran and Iraq. The US DoE also identifies Canada as another future oil superpower. Venezuela's deposits alone could extend the oil age for another 100 years.

The US DoE estimates that Chavez controls 1.3 trillion barrels of oil - more than the entire declared oil reserves of the rest of the planet. Hugo Chavez told Newsnight's Greg Palast that "Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world. In the future Venezuela won't have any more oil - but that's in the 22nd century. Venezuela has oil for 200 years." Chavez will ask the OPEC meeting in June to formally accept that Venezuela's reserves are now bigger than Saudi Arabia's.

Chavez's increased muscle will not go down well in Washington. In 2002 the Bush administration welcomed an attempted coup against Chavez. He told Newsnight that the Americans had organised it in an attempt to get hold of Venezuela's oil.

Ironically by invading Iraq George Bush has boosted oil prices and effectively transferred billions of dollars from American consumers to Chavez. Up to $200 million a day - half of it from the US - is flooding into Caracas. Chavez is spending this on building infrastructure and increasing the minimum wage and improving health and education in the poor ranchos which surround the cities. As a result even his opponents accept that Chavez is extremely popular and will easily win the next Presidential election in December.

Chavez is also spending billions in the rest of Latin America - exchanging contracts for oil tankers and infrastructure projects and buying up loans in Argentina and Brazil. He has made cheap oil deals with Ecuador and the Caribbean.

He has also spent some of the dollars which have come in from the US supporting Fidel Castro in Cuba. In return Cuba has supplied the thousands of doctors and teachers who are transforming conditions in the barrios of Caracas. Washington accuses Chavez of buying influence in Latin America.

The Newsnight team had to endure the long speeches and marathon six hour TV shows which Hugo Chavez delights in. Chavez posed for Newsnight posing with the sword of Simon Bolivar the 18th century liberator who drove out Spanish imperialists from South America. The symbolism was clear but behind the showman is a clever political brain.

Chavez has not invaded any foreign countries. He does not have secret prisons at home or abroad. Chavez has repeatedly won democratic elections and the opposition operates freely although some members have been charged with accepting illegal foreign donations. Nonetheless George Bush's administration repeatedly targets Chavez on human rights and finances his opponents.

Earlier this year US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld compared Chavez to Hitler - because he was elected democratically - and last year the influential American evangelist Pat Robertson called for his assassination. Robertson later apologized and said that he did not "necessarily" have to be killed so long as he was kidnapped by American special forces.

Chavez told Newsnight that he was still concerned that George Bush had not learnt the lessons of Iraq and would order an invasion to try to secure Venezuela's oil. "I pray this will not happen because US soldiers will bite the dust and so will we, Venezuelans". He warned that any such attempt would lead to a prolonged guerilla war and an end to oil production. "The US people should know there will be no oil for anyone".
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$3.00/ gallon isn't too bad. Been a long time since we paid anything under the equivalent of US $3.50 in Canada.
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Thought it might be appropriate to bring up this old subject thread again seeing as our fuel prices are headed up again.

.....And an interesting new twist...

NO MORE CHEAP OIL SAYS CHAVEZ
BBC Newsnight
Monday April 3, 2006

If you thought high oil prices were just a blip think again. In an exclusive interview with Greg Palast for BBC Newsnight the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has ruled out any return to the era of cheap oil.

The colourful Venezuelan leader hosts the OPEC meeting on June 1 in Caracas and he will ask OPEC to set $50 a barrel - the average price last year - as the long term level. During the 1990s the price of oil had hovered around the $20 mark falling as low as $10 a barrel in early 1999.

Chavez told Newsnight "we're trying to find an equilibrium. The price of oil could remain at the low level of $50. That's a fair price it's not a high price". Hugo Chavez will have added clout at this OPEC meeting.

US Department of Energy analyses seen by Newsnight show that at $50 a barrel Venezuela - not Saudi Arabia - will have the biggest oil reserves in OPEC. Venezuela has vast deposits of extra heavy oil in the Orinoco. Traditionally these have not been counted because at $20 a barrel they were too expensive to exploit - but at $50 a barrel melting them into liquid petroleum becomes extremely profitable.

The US DoE report shows that at today's prices Venezuela's oil reserves are bigger than those of the entire Middle East including Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, Iran and Iraq. The US DoE also identifies Canada as another future oil superpower. Venezuela's deposits alone could extend the oil age for another 100 years.

The US DoE estimates that Chavez controls 1.3 trillion barrels of oil - more than the entire declared oil reserves of the rest of the planet. Hugo Chavez told Newsnight's Greg Palast that "Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world. In the future Venezuela won't have any more oil - but that's in the 22nd century. Venezuela has oil for 200 years." Chavez will ask the OPEC meeting in June to formally accept that Venezuela's reserves are now bigger than Saudi Arabia's.

Chavez's increased muscle will not go down well in Washington. In 2002 the Bush administration welcomed an attempted coup against Chavez. He told Newsnight that the Americans had organised it in an attempt to get hold of Venezuela's oil.

Ironically by invading Iraq George Bush has boosted oil prices and effectively transferred billions of dollars from American consumers to Chavez. Up to $200 million a day - half of it from the US - is flooding into Caracas. Chavez is spending this on building infrastructure and increasing the minimum wage and improving health and education in the poor ranchos which surround the cities. As a result even his opponents accept that Chavez is extremely popular and will easily win the next Presidential election in December.

Chavez is also spending billions in the rest of Latin America - exchanging contracts for oil tankers and infrastructure projects and buying up loans in Argentina and Brazil. He has made cheap oil deals with Ecuador and the Caribbean.

He has also spent some of the dollars which have come in from the US supporting Fidel Castro in Cuba. In return Cuba has supplied the thousands of doctors and teachers who are transforming conditions in the barrios of Caracas. Washington accuses Chavez of buying influence in Latin America.

The Newsnight team had to endure the long speeches and marathon six hour TV shows which Hugo Chavez delights in. Chavez posed for Newsnight posing with the sword of Simon Bolivar the 18th century liberator who drove out Spanish imperialists from South America. The symbolism was clear but behind the showman is a clever political brain.

Chavez has not invaded any foreign countries. He does not have secret prisons at home or abroad. Chavez has repeatedly won democratic elections and the opposition operates freely although some members have been charged with accepting illegal foreign donations. Nonetheless George Bush's administration repeatedly targets Chavez on human rights and finances his opponents.

Earlier this year US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld compared Chavez to Hitler - because he was elected democratically - and last year the influential American evangelist Pat Robertson called for his assassination. Robertson later apologized and said that he did not "necessarily" have to be killed so long as he was kidnapped by American special forces.

Chavez told Newsnight that he was still concerned that George Bush had not learnt the lessons of Iraq and would order an invasion to try to secure Venezuela's oil. "I pray this will not happen because US soldiers will bite the dust and so will we, Venezuelans". He warned that any such attempt would lead to a prolonged guerilla war and an end to oil production. "The US people should know there will be no oil for anyone".

I didn't realize Chavez was the poster child of the BBC...
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Old 04-12-2006, 06:15 AM   #45
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you all talk about the "high" prices for fuel and oil,
we in germany got real high prices, normal fuel for cars (95 oktan) is about 1,30€ per litre thats 4,95€ per gallone...

you should be happy about the prices your peacefully president is giving to you in cost of nature..............

you see, 2$ a gallone isn't that much!

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